DC-6 picture and question

[Typhoon1244]

Hey mar, and all you other DC-6 guys, look at this, and note the photographer's caption.

Takeoff with an engine failure? Really?

 

[skyking1976]

I suppose it's not totally out of the question. I've heard of 3 engine ferries conducted with other 4 engine planes before.

SK

 

[Vector4fun]

I believe three engine ferrys were pretty common in the days of four engines and big radials. They were a wee bit less reliable than modern turbofans..

My Dad was doing such a ferry in one of these, and had to shut down a second engine on the same wing.

Said it was no problem in the big Lockheed, Center was much more excited about it than they were.

 

[skyking1976]

Air Wisconsin has also done 3 engine ferries with the BAe 146.

 

[DC4boy]

Three engine ferries are quite common and no sweat what so ever.

Also, thats a DC7.............

 

[Vector4fun]

Also, thats a DC7.............

Ya know, I had the very same thought initially, but then went to the FAA N-number query site and looked it up. The FAA site says the N-number is a DC-6B registered to an outfit in Alaska I believe. Of course, an FAA database could Never be wrong, could it?

 

[ms6073]

Air Wisconsin has also done 3 engine ferries with the BAe 146.

I thought that was SOP for cruise flight at Air Wisconsin - cost cutting measure or something like that (now you had to know that was comming sometime)!


Michael

 

[A Squared]

Yeah,

3 engine ferries are common. I've done dozens of them.

The airplane is a DC-6. take a careful look at the props, especially the #2 prop. you can see that they are 3 bladed props. THe DC-7 had 4 bladed props. Anyway, that particular airplane belongs to my company. The forward cockpit area has been cut off the fuselage and installed in our building in Fairbanks. It is being set up as a procedures trainer. A couple of our guys have done a complete cosmetic restoration of the cockpit (looks like new) and are gradually setting up various systems to function and simulate failures.

 

[Typhoon1244]

...thats a DC7...

The airplane is a DC-6...that particular airplane belongs to my company.

Yeah! In yo' face, DC4boy!

Seriously, one of the first aircraft ID lessons my dad taught me--when I was seven--was how to tell the Douglas propliners apart.

Round holes + three blades = DC-4
Square holes + three blades = DC-6
Square holes + four blades = DC-7

 

[Crizz]

Just out of curiosity... what (aside from the props) are the differences between the DC6/7?

 

[Vector4fun]

From my book on the history of Delta:

Series Engines hp lgth span seats

DC-4 P&W R-2000 1450 94' 117' 44
DC-6 P&W R-2800 2100 101 117 56
DC-6A P&W R-2800 2500 100 117
DC-6B P&W R-2800 2500 106 117 66
DC-7 CW R-3350 3250 109 117 70
DC-7B CW R-3350 3250 109 117 70
DC-7C CW R-3350 3400 112 127 84


Don't know if that's a misprint, but sort of interesting that the -4, -6, and -7 would have the same wingspan.

Besides the above, about 30,000 lbs, 30 mph, and 600 miles range....

 

[justApilot]

seems like some freight operation tried a 3 engine takeoff years ago somewhere on the east coast in a DC8 or 707 and crashed

 

[414Flyer]

Yes I think they all had the same wing, until the DC-7C, which has some extra wing inserted between the fuselage and inboard engines.

 

[Crizz]

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/224038/L/

 

[bafanguy]

It's nice to see you all discuss these airplanes. As a kid, I got about 350+/- hours as a DC-6B copilot for a Part 121 non-sked. There's nothing quite like the sound of a big recip...and four of them is just four times better. I'm glad to see someone still flying these great airplanes; I'd give one kidney and one dangler to fly captain on it.

414Flyer...your bio says something about "DC-4 soon" ? Tell me how you are getting a chance to fly this airplane.

 

[DC4boy]

I was able to get 900hrs in a DC-4 as an F.O. on a Airtanker contract. Nothing is more fun than massaging 4 R-2000s!

 

[bafanguy]

A professional flight engineer is worth 6X whatever they were paying him.

 

[Typhoon1244]

A professional flight engineer is worth 6X whatever they were paying him.

I learned this early in my aviation career: the harder you work, the less you make.

 

[414Flyer]

I got VERY lucky and had perfect timing. Went to an airtanker pilot convention in Reno. Met someone who, unbeknownst to me, was leaving a company, who hooked me up with his job.

I leave this weekend to start training. I am not sure how many openings there were for right seaters this season, but from what others have said, it might have been about the only one.

 

[Typhoon1244]

I got VERY lucky and had perfect timing. Went to an airtanker pilot convention in Reno. Met someone who, unbeknownst to me, was leaving a company, who hooked me up with his job.

Damm! Congratulations! (That was good timing! )