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Delta Accepting Pilot Applications
Wednesday December 20, 12:00 pm ET
ATLANTA, Dec. 20, 2006 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Delta Air Lines today will officially begin accepting applications for new-hire pilots in anticipation of exhausting its pilot furlough list in 2007. Interviews for new Delta first officer positions are scheduled to begin in January.

``Starting the hiring process again is a significant milestone for our pilot group,'' said Steve Dickson, vice president of Flight Operations and a 757/767 Captain. ``It signifies the likely return of our last furloughed pilot, and provides hope for growth and career advancement for current pilots.''
Delta recently announced that it would need approximately 200 additional pilots during 2007 in order to meet the demands of the flying schedule due to network restructuring and international expansion. These pilots will come from a combination of pilots returning from furlough and new hire pilots.

``Clearly, this announcement, coupled with our recently announced order for new Boeing 737 and 777 aircraft as well as the planned acquisition of 13 Boeing 757s, shows that Delta's plan is working and the future for the Delta pilot group looks bright,'' Dickson said.

Pilots interested in submitting an application are encouraged to view the Careers page at delta.com: (http://www.delta.com/about_delta/career_opportunities/index.jsp)

Delta's call for new pilots marks the first time since 2001 that the airline has accepted applications from prospective pilots. During 2006, Delta has offered recall to more than 340 pilots, in addition to recalls of 900 maintenance professionals and 1,200 flight attendants. The company continues to hire in its Airport Customer Service and Reservations divisions.

Delta continues to make significant progress in all areas of its restructuring including filing its plan of reorganization, which would have Delta emerge from Chapter 11 during spring 2007 as a stand-alone carrier.

Delta Air Lines (Other OTC:DALRQ.PK - News) offers customers service to more destinations than any global airline with Delta and Delta Connection carrier service to 303 destinations in 52 countries. With more than 50 new international routes added in the last year, Delta is America's fastest growing international airline and is a leader across the Atlantic with flights to 31 trans-Atlantic destinations. To Latin America and the Caribbean, Delta offers more than 400 weekly flights to 56 destinations. Delta's marketing alliances also allow customers to earn and redeem SkyMiles on more than 14,000 flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta is a founding member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. Including its SkyTeam and worldwide codeshare partners, Delta offers flights to 459 worldwide destinations in 97 countries. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes and check flight status at delta.com.
 
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200 pilots anticipated to be hired in 2007.


Bet you my left nut that Delta will receive over 15,000 applications for these 200 positions.


200/15000 * 100% = 1.33% chance.
 
Not to mention the slightest labor unrest, i.e. merger, the new guys will be the 1st to go back on the street... but it's definitely a move in the right direction..
 
Not to mention the slightest labor unrest, i.e. merger, the new guys will be the 1st to go back on the street... .

Wouldn't that be the case for any pilot in a seniority system. History has shown that the best defense against furlough is to get in at the beginning of a new hiring wave and that's what this is, the beginning.
 
Mergers with a carrier that doesn't have hubs next door wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. IF UAL/CAL goes through, look for NWA and DL to merge. The only hub that could be in jeopardy is CVG I would guess. That is more of a Comair hub anyway.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Wouldn't that be the case for any pilot in a seniority system. History has shown that the best defense against furlough is to get in at the beginning of a new hiring wave and that's what this is, the beginning.


Is 200 pilots per year a "wave"? What do the retirements look like at Delta over the next few years?

Delta's always been where I wanted to go...but I lost track of how many Delta guys have told me to apply to UPS.
 
Is 200 pilots per year a "wave"? What do the retirements look like at Delta over the next few years?

Delta's always been where I wanted to go...but I lost track of how many Delta guys have told me to apply to UPS.

We don't have a lot of retirements scheduled, primarily because we already retired 2300 Captains over the last few years (early outs for their pensions). We have about 1000 over 50 years old, and 300 over 55. Still, we are getting more planes, and we have already gotten rid of older planes---the 737-200s and 737-300s just left. So, anything new will require more pilots. We get 13 ex TWA 757ERs starting in July of 07, and we just made an initial order for 737-700s and more 777s.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
We don't have a lot of retirements scheduled, primarily because we already retired 2300 Captains over the last few years (early outs for their pensions). We have about 1000 over 50 years old, and 300 over 55. Still, we are getting more planes, and we have already gotten rid of older planes---the 737-200s and 737-300s just left. So, anything new will require more pilots. We get 13 ex TWA 757ERs starting in July of 07, and we just made an initial order for 737-700s and more 777s.

Bye Bye--General Lee


Recently flew with a LCA. He said at their latest meeting, the fleet size will remain the same. New 737-700s will mean fewer md88s. Time will tell but, do not expect much growth in total airframes on the property.
 
Taking odds on time from hire to furlough

Just wanted to start a pool on how long everyone thinks it will be from time of hire to furlough.

Keep in mind that there are over 990 pilots on PLOA, MLOA, bypass and med hold. If these guys did'nt want to come back why would anyone want to be hired?

Also, when and if the 990 start coming back, be prepared to be junior for a long time.

Only 1500 guys retire in the next 10 years. On a list of 7500 that ain't many.




Good luck,

Mr. PMA
 
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Just wanted to start a pool on how long everyone thinks it will be from time of hire to furlough.

Keep in mind that there are over 900 pilots on PLOA, MLOA, bypass and med hold. If these guys did'nt want to come back why would anyone want to be hired?

Also, when and if the 900 start coming back, be prepared to be junior for a long time.

Good luck,

Mr. PMA


Where did you get the 900 number? 1st I have heard of this info.
 
Is 200 pilots per year a "wave"?

200 pilots is a start. In the last 2 years DAL has recalled about 1,000 pilots and will start hiring next year. If your goal is a quick upgrade, may I suggest CHQ or Skywest, if you want to work at a large major carrier with a large and growing international reach apply at DAL. If you are debating it, don't even bother, thousands of others will be trying to knock the door down just for the opportunity.
 
Where did you get the 900 number?

He got it out of his butt. Thyere are about 160 by-passes, about the same number MLOA and about 200 SLOA, most of whom, if they've been out for 2 years, will most likely not be coming back.
 
Read the seniority list

Where did you get the 900 number? 1st I have heard of this info.


I went through the current sen. list/catagory list and that is the number I came up with.

Granted this is the latest list and the numbers change daily.

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He got it out of his butt. Thyere are about 160 by-passes, about the same number MLOA and about 200 SLOA, most of whom, if they've been out for 2 years, will most likely not be coming back.


Guess again.

I was counting the guys still on furlough. I apologize.
 
Just wanted to start a pool on how long everyone thinks it will be from time of hire to furlough.

Keep in mind that there are over 990 pilots on PLOA, MLOA, bypass and med hold. If these guys did'nt want to come back why would anyone want to be hired?

Also, when and if the 990 start coming back, be prepared to be junior for a long time.

Only 1500 guys retire in the next 10 years. On a list of 7500 that ain't many.




Good luck,

Mr. PMA
990? Where did you get that figure from?
 
Not to mention the slightest labor unrest, i.e. merger, the new guys will be the 1st to go back on the street... but it's definitely a move in the right direction..

I hate to be pessimistic, but these new hires have a strong likelihood of becoming furlough fodder. As long as you know that going in and accept that any hiccup (terrorist attack, merger, substantial oil spike, etc...) to DAL's reorganization plan (such as it is) will likely result in your furlough, then have at it. Young and single? Might be worth the gamble. Middle-aged with family? I'd concentrate my efforts elsewhere.

Contrast this with a new hire at say SWA, FedEx or UPS... highly improbable you'd ever see the unemployment line given their respective growth plans, retirements, and financial health.

YMMV,

BBB
 
Contrast this with a new hire at say SWA, FedEx or UPS... highly improbable you'd ever see the unemployment line given their respective growth plans, retirements, and financial health.

You could have said the same thing about DAL back in 2000. Funny how quick things can change in this industry.
 
You could have said the same thing about DAL back in 2000. Funny how quick things can change in this industry.

That's a great point FDJ2!

It's great because it reinforces the concept that one must thoroughly educate one's self about this industry and its FUTURE before tying one's future to a particular airline. This is all the more reason to concentrate your efforts elsewhere where the demonstrable likelihood of sustained and uninterrupted employment is so much greater.

BBB
 
200 pilots is a start. In the last 2 years DAL has recalled about 1,000 pilots and will start hiring next year. If your goal is a quick upgrade, may I suggest CHQ or Skywest, if you want to work at a large major carrier with a large and growing international reach apply at DAL. If you are debating it, don't even bother, thousands of others will be trying to knock the door down just for the opportunity.


Been at CHQ 3 1/2 years...already got the quick upgrade...ready to move on.

Delta's always been my first choice. So now I have something else to think about.
 
200 pilots anticipated to be hired in 2007.


Bet you my left nut that Delta will receive over 15,000 applications for these 200 positions.


200/15000 * 100% = 1.33% chance.

If you know the "right" people that 1.33% chance goes straight to 100% chance.
 
Wow - CHQ for 3 1/2 years and a quick upgrade...very impressive!!! You and instructordude can kentucky leg wrestle for an interview slot.:rolleyes:


I'm not trying to impress you asshat.

Enjoy that training I paid for?....douuuuush
 
I'm not trying to impress you asshat.

Enjoy that training I paid for?....douuuuush

Are you refering to his military service as training you paid for? I certainly hope not, for many reasons. Particularly since over the course of your career you have effectively paid squat to the IRS with the kind of money you have been making.
 
I was recalled in May '05... there are only 45 people senior to me on bypass (ie still on furlough status).
 

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