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Cyanide is a very poisonous chemical. Exposure to high levels of cyanide harms the brain and heart, and may cause coma and death. Exposure to lower levels may result in breathing difficulties, heart pains, vomiting, blood changes, headaches, and enlargement of the thyroid gland.
Cyanide is usually found joined with other chemicals to form compounds. Examples of simple cyanide compounds are hydrogen cyanide, sodium cyanide and potassium cyanide. Cyanide can be produced by certain bacteria, fungi, and algae, and it is found in a number of foods and plants. In the body, cyanide combines with a chemical to form Vitamin B12. Cyanide occurs naturally in cassava roots, which are potato-like tubers of cassava plants grown in tropical countries.
Hydrogen cyanide is a colorless gas with a faint, bitter, almond-like odor. Sodium cyanide and potassium cyanide are both white solids with a bitter, almond-like odor in damp air. Cyanide and hydrogen cyanide are used in electroplating, metallurgy, production of chemicals, photographic development, making plastics, fumigating ships, and some mining processes.
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Cyanide is usually found joined with other chemicals to form compounds. Examples of simple cyanide compounds are hydrogen cyanide, sodium cyanide and potassium cyanide. Cyanide can be produced by certain bacteria, fungi, and algae, and it is found in a number of foods and plants. In the body, cyanide combines with a chemical to form Vitamin B12. Cyanide occurs naturally in cassava roots, which are potato-like tubers of cassava plants grown in tropical countries.
Hydrogen cyanide is a colorless gas with a faint, bitter, almond-like odor. Sodium cyanide and potassium cyanide are both white solids with a bitter, almond-like odor in damp air. Cyanide and hydrogen cyanide are used in electroplating, metallurgy, production of chemicals, photographic development, making plastics, fumigating ships, and some mining processes.
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts8.html
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why? what do you have in mind? 
An islamic terrorist group called "September 11" threatened the Americas Cup last year with Cyanide attacks.
In 2002 a computer hacker was arrested here in Illinois for apparently stashing cyanide in tunnels under UIC or something like that. They accused him of being a terrorist.
An islamic terrorist group called "September 11" threatened the Americas Cup last year with Cyanide attacks.
In 2002 a computer hacker was arrested here in Illinois for apparently stashing cyanide in tunnels under UIC or something like that. They accused him of being a terrorist.
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WMD?
Cyanide has the potential for use as a weapon just like any other chemical weapon. In fact it was in the WTC bomb but I believe the bomb destroyed the cyanide.
check this link out..
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5350.htm
white supremacists were building sodium-cyanide bombs
Cyanide has the potential for use as a weapon just like any other chemical weapon. In fact it was in the WTC bomb but I believe the bomb destroyed the cyanide.
check this link out..
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5350.htm
white supremacists were building sodium-cyanide bombs
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So if it can be used as a WMD, why is it that none of the major talking heads are reporting it?
Yes, I mean the cache of cyanide and US $300M found over the weekend in Iraq by US soldiers. Why is it that it was burried way back on page nine of many US newspapers, but no coverage by any US major TV news media?
Not to mention all of the SCUDS that were lying around all over the country that violate the UN mandate that are never mentioned.
And, let me see, the blister agent in the artillery shells that the Brits found. Yes, I know it didn't test positive. Anyone with any knowledge knows that if it isn't stored properly, it has a very short shelf life. However, even a dead skunk is still a skunk.
Yes, I mean the cache of cyanide and US $300M found over the weekend in Iraq by US soldiers. Why is it that it was burried way back on page nine of many US newspapers, but no coverage by any US major TV news media?
Not to mention all of the SCUDS that were lying around all over the country that violate the UN mandate that are never mentioned.
And, let me see, the blister agent in the artillery shells that the Brits found. Yes, I know it didn't test positive. Anyone with any knowledge knows that if it isn't stored properly, it has a very short shelf life. However, even a dead skunk is still a skunk.
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Here's a few thoughts.
There is more cyanide in the US then there is in Iraq, just having it doesn't mean it's intended for WMD. It occurs naturally in bacteria and certain fungi.
If it was weaponised in some way why hasn't Bush jumped on it? His approval rating seems to be quite low at the moment.
As for the media, you have to remember, they don't exactly serve as an unbiased reporter of facts like they claim, news is a commercial enterprise. How does that play in here? I don't know, but I am often surprised at the lack of attention to important topics in the US media while they focus on something trivial... like say the whole Jackson Family.
There is more cyanide in the US then there is in Iraq, just having it doesn't mean it's intended for WMD. It occurs naturally in bacteria and certain fungi.
If it was weaponised in some way why hasn't Bush jumped on it? His approval rating seems to be quite low at the moment.
As for the media, you have to remember, they don't exactly serve as an unbiased reporter of facts like they claim, news is a commercial enterprise. How does that play in here? I don't know, but I am often surprised at the lack of attention to important topics in the US media while they focus on something trivial... like say the whole Jackson Family.
from MSNBC website
By From Staff and Wire Reports
The Union Leader
Updated: 11:54 p.m. ET Jan. 30, 2004Jan. 31 - An arsenal of weapons, explosives and enough sodium cyanide to kill thousands has been traced to a former New Hampshire couple who now live in Texas.
The common-law couple - William Krar, 62, and Judith Bruey, 54 - have pleaded guilty to federal weapons charges stemming from the discovery last April. Authorities yesterday said Krar and Bruey lived in New Hampshire until the fall of 2001, when they moved to east Texas.
The raid of three rented storage units in Noonday capped an extensive federal investigation that involved hundreds of leads in every state in the country, said said Brit Featherston, a federal prosecutor and the government's anti-terrorism coordinator in Texas' eastern district.
The nearly two pounds of the cyanide compound and other chemicals could create enough poisonous gas to kill everyone inside a big-chain bookstore.
"There's no other reason for anyone to possess that type of device other than to kill people," Featherson said. "The arsenal found in those searches had the capability of terrorizing a lot of people."
But Krar's son, who lives in New Boston, N.H., yesterday disputed any notion that his father is a terrorist. Krar grew up the son of a master gunsmith for the Colt gun manufacturing company and years ago was a safety instructor for the National Rifle Association, Michael Krar said.
Krar makes a living buying and selling ammunition and gun-related equipment at Army surplus auctions, gun shows and flea markets, Michael Krar. He loves the United States and donates money to disabled veteran groups and POW-MIA causes, his son said.
He could not explain the cyanide.
"That's the $100,000 question I have not been able to explain and he has not been able to explain to me," Michael Krar said. Krar lived in south-central New Hampshire for eight years before moving to Texas, his son said. Bruey is originally from the Midwest; they met in Florida, he said.
Authorities also discovered nearly half a million rounds of ammunition - a number that Krar's son disputes - more than 60 pipe bombs, machine guns, silencers and remote-controlled bombs disguised as briefcases. Also included were pamphlets on how to make chemical weapons and anti-Semitic, anti-black and anti-government books.
Michael Krar said his father is not racist or anti-Semitic.
William Krar is expected to appear in federal court next month in Tyler to be sentenced on a charge of possession of a dangerous chemical weapon. Bruey pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons and could get up to five years in prison. The couple remain in jail.
A mistake led the FBI to Krar two years ago.
Krar mailed a package to a self-described militia member in New Jersey. The package included several phony documents - U.N. and Pentagon ID cards, a Social Security card, birth certificates from three states - and a note: "We would hate to have this fall into the wrong hands."
By From Staff and Wire Reports
The Union Leader
Updated: 11:54 p.m. ET Jan. 30, 2004Jan. 31 - An arsenal of weapons, explosives and enough sodium cyanide to kill thousands has been traced to a former New Hampshire couple who now live in Texas.
The common-law couple - William Krar, 62, and Judith Bruey, 54 - have pleaded guilty to federal weapons charges stemming from the discovery last April. Authorities yesterday said Krar and Bruey lived in New Hampshire until the fall of 2001, when they moved to east Texas.
The raid of three rented storage units in Noonday capped an extensive federal investigation that involved hundreds of leads in every state in the country, said said Brit Featherston, a federal prosecutor and the government's anti-terrorism coordinator in Texas' eastern district.
The nearly two pounds of the cyanide compound and other chemicals could create enough poisonous gas to kill everyone inside a big-chain bookstore.
"There's no other reason for anyone to possess that type of device other than to kill people," Featherson said. "The arsenal found in those searches had the capability of terrorizing a lot of people."
But Krar's son, who lives in New Boston, N.H., yesterday disputed any notion that his father is a terrorist. Krar grew up the son of a master gunsmith for the Colt gun manufacturing company and years ago was a safety instructor for the National Rifle Association, Michael Krar said.
Krar makes a living buying and selling ammunition and gun-related equipment at Army surplus auctions, gun shows and flea markets, Michael Krar. He loves the United States and donates money to disabled veteran groups and POW-MIA causes, his son said.
He could not explain the cyanide.
"That's the $100,000 question I have not been able to explain and he has not been able to explain to me," Michael Krar said. Krar lived in south-central New Hampshire for eight years before moving to Texas, his son said. Bruey is originally from the Midwest; they met in Florida, he said.
Authorities also discovered nearly half a million rounds of ammunition - a number that Krar's son disputes - more than 60 pipe bombs, machine guns, silencers and remote-controlled bombs disguised as briefcases. Also included were pamphlets on how to make chemical weapons and anti-Semitic, anti-black and anti-government books.
Michael Krar said his father is not racist or anti-Semitic.
William Krar is expected to appear in federal court next month in Tyler to be sentenced on a charge of possession of a dangerous chemical weapon. Bruey pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons and could get up to five years in prison. The couple remain in jail.
A mistake led the FBI to Krar two years ago.
Krar mailed a package to a self-described militia member in New Jersey. The package included several phony documents - U.N. and Pentagon ID cards, a Social Security card, birth certificates from three states - and a note: "We would hate to have this fall into the wrong hands."
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Yeah, I don't trust the media much anymore. Just one example of thousands is the fellow pilot here in town that personally went to Iraq for a few weeks on a humanitarian effort and came back saying that everyone he met was glad that America did what they did. But you'll never hear that from the media, because that doesn't sell newspapers or garner ratings.
And don't even get me started on CBS' general aviation snafu.
And don't even get me started on CBS' general aviation snafu.
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