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starvingcfi

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didn't wanna put this on the other customs thread...figured some might miss the info.

i called the customs air unit in MIA tonight to talk to a recruiter. the recruiter was out flying, but a duty officer helped me out a little.

as far as customs pay, they start you out at GS-11 (around $42-43K). after a year, you recieve that plus 25% (of your GS-11) law enforcement pay. didn't really understand that one. not sure how much later, but you move up to GS-12, then GS-13. said they're pushing for GS-14. not 100% on all of this, but at least it's something.

no travel benefits for customs pilots, which kinda makes sense. however, i was hoping they might have some deals with some airlines.

equipment in MIA consists of citations and c-12's for fixed wing. A-stars and blackhawks for rotorcraft. he said JAX has 206 or 210's and some cheyennes.

as far as training goes, the guy said he just finished training and it took about 16 weeks. mostly legal stuff (bookwork) and special agent type training. very cool. after training, you are a law enforcement officer. badge and gun. the whole works. also very cool.

as far as the p-3 positions, didn't seem very promising for civilian. i think the customs website says you can be eligible for p-3 as a civilian if you have a type for a L-188. he didn't seem to really think so. he said p-3 pilots have to have NATOPS training. not sure what that is.

also, the guy i talked to was ex-military. however, the 3 guys in the room with him were all civilian. said he thought customs was going more civilian than military...unlike the past. also, his wait to get in was around 2 years. he said the wait would be at least a year. pretty long wait, but i think it's worth it.

that's about all i've got for now. i've got some websites he gave me for gov't pay scale (GS-11 etc), customs training, retirement and such. i'll post those tomorrow when i get home.

sounds like a great place to be if law enforcement is what you want to do. i'm considering giving up my goal (UPS) and going customs. like i said before, i'm not 100% on any of this. just what i remember from my conversation. i've got it all written down at home. if anyone has anything to add/correct, please do. hope this helps someone out. there doesn't seem to be that much info out there about law enforcement aviation.

starvingcfi
 
hey. not sure if anyone is even interested. there have been all of 14 reads with 0 posts, but i'll throw it in anyway.

i've got the websites for customs stuff. as far as the payscale, the website is www.opm.gov. i still haven't figured out how to navigate it, but i'm working on it. as far as customs training, it's www.fletc.gov. retirement package info i www.tsp.gov. haven't had a chance to look at the last two yet.

that's it for now. enjoy

starvingcfi
 
There are no Customs units in Chicago. There are aviation units that send aircraft and crew to that location to support agents etc. Most of the time the aircraft of choice for that area is a light helicopter.
 
All hiring decisions are made in Washington, D.C. and since you have worked for the government you must know that common sense does not always come into play..........but if you have been through the Federal Law Enforcement Academy than chances are you would look more attractive than a person with only the flight time. As long as the minimums are met, law enforcement background especially Federal looks very good. All applicants must be no older than 37 years of age and if you have a veterans preference from prior military experience than you would really have an edge over those with non at all.
 
Hey starvingcfi,

glad to see someone else is also interested in this. I've long thought about a federal law-enforcement career, but just didn't feel I had the information to make a big commitment. Also, I didn't do too well on the math portion of the FBI entrance test--it had quadratic equations and crap like that. I was kind of browned off by it ... I mean, do you want geeks who can solve mathmatical word problems or do you want mature professionals who want to use their intellects to catch bad guys? It seemed like the math thing was just a stupid way to get rid of some applicants.

anyway, then caught the flying bug a few years ago and have been trying to figure out ways to bring the two interests together.
9-11 just fueled the interest.

Thanks for digging up those websites. rgds, sf1940
 
hey, good to hear man. i'm still looking into it a bit. i called the miami air branch and talked to a duty officer. i left my number for kim elsholz (think i spelled that wrong) she finally called me back yesterday, but i was working. haven't gotten a chance to call back. i'd say give them a ring if you have anymore questions. their number is 305-258-5550. good luck.

starvingcfi
 

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