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rk772

Here we go STEELERS!!
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I’ve recently given up my job at a very large regional because of the sacrifices my children have made over the past few years. I was tired of being a father over the cell phone. It was a tough decision but I’m loving spending everyday with them.

Anyway, I want to stay in aviation and am interested in crop dusting(Yea, no hotels!!) Any advice on building a career in this field? I'm not even sure where to start.
I live in the Pittsburgh area.
 
You're going to need some substantial conventional gear experience, and should have a good background working airplanes. Not point to point, but working them.

A maintenance background isn't an absolute requirement, but nearly. You don't need to hold a mechanic certificate, but it's certainly preferred.

You'll need to be certicated through your state ag agency or department. Usually there are up to 6 different tests that must be taken. You'll usually also need to be employed by an operator in order to take the tests. Most operators won't touch you unless you have at least a thousand hours of ag time, as a starting point.

The regional job you just left is an entry level job. Ag work isn't. And it's not easy to break into, either.

Traditionally, one could approach an operator and work a few years mixing chemical, driving tractors, flagging fields, and turning wrenches on the airplane. Over time, the operator would check you out in a super cub or perhaps evena pawnee, assuming you have good flying skills. (A lot of pilots don't). You might be allowed to spray out 25 or 50 gallons of water or tank rinsate here and there. Eventually start doing small bits of insecticide work under supervision. After a bit, you could work into doing herbicide work, and possibly look at larger, more capable airplanes.

You could go buy an airplane, but a lot of farmers won't touch you for business unless you're known for ten or twenty years in their area...and even then, you're still the "new guy."

You might make a fair amount of money, or you might be like a lot of ag drivers who may have earned less in a bad year than you did at your regional in a good year. It can be that bad...or worse.

My first year spraying, we lost a pilot, and all our competitors and neighbors died. How does your wife feel about that?
 
If your gonna do Ag work, well, your former job may have been safer and at least you were able to talk to your kids on the cell phone. Ag pilots have a short life expectancy from low and dangerous flying AND from the chemical agents . Also, good luck finding someone who will insure you. Your Life Insurance policy most likely has language specifically saying that you won't be covered if you are killed while piloting and Ag aircraft. Most do.

Check out K and K Aviation in Bridgewater, VA. They are a part 135 operator and they do contract spraying (mosquito control, fruit fly control) for municipalities in FL and CA using old King Airs and DC-3's.
 
rk772,

Good luck with your new career path. I sincerely hope the best for you.

You are not the first, and you won't be the last, daddy that left AE to put his kids first.

Wish I could help you with the crop dusting thing in PIT, but I don't know anything. Just wanted to help keep your spirits up.
 
Avbug,

I sent this to you privately as well...

I have been reading your posts, and I hope you can give me some advice.

I have the opprotunity to attend a crop dusting school here in Georgia (AgFlight). I recently dropped in un-announced and checked the place out. I spoke to the owner for a while, and he sent for his chief instructor to give me a ride. We went out in a Citabria with me in the front and pretended to dust a wheat field with 60ft pine trees at one end. He did two passes and p-turns and then handed it to me. I then did half a dozen passes and turns.

It was a blast, to make a long one short. I felt pretty good about diving into that field, and the instructor said at the end I was a little too low in my runs!

I am a >100hr private pilot, with virtually no conventional gear experience. The school offers from 0 time to 250hrs, all taildragger, High performance signoff, limited commercial rating and AG certificate.

I would be paying for this for the next ten yrs (loan). Is it worth it?

Am I going to be looking for work for 5 yrs before I find work?

Thanks!!
 
The grass is always greener. I have spent most of my life around ag aviation and have flown ag for the last 13 seasons. As Avbug said, you need to be pretty good at working on your equipment. Flying is really such a small part of being a good ag pilot. Your job is to apply product to the crop. You just happen to be flying while doing it. You have to be able to fly without thinking about it much. It is some of the most enjoyable flying that you can do. However, don't think that you will have much time at home. During the season I was usually gone from the house at about 3 am and not home till after 11 pm. Thats 7 days a week for about 7 months. The flying gets pretty old after the 13th hour of the day. I had a very good ag seat and recently left it to get in the right seat of a regional jet. Like I said the grass is always greener. I really feel like my family's quality of life is better now. If you really want to get into this find an operator willing to help you and be willing to put in several seasons of working the ground and not making much money. You have to take it slow because there are several ways to get killed doing this. If you would like some more info, let me know and I will be glad to help in any way I can.
 
If you live near a place that flies banners, get a season in flying banners.

Will get you some time in tailwheel airplanes, and maybe a few old dusters.

I flew banners for a buddy of mine during my off time and actually made a few extra coins flying Pawnees and Agwagons.

Maybe not close to what you were thinking, but just puting out some ideas.

Best of luck.
 

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