Credit for home study

[pilotyip]

Do any airlines out there give a flight hour credit or other credit for mandatory home study, either workbooks, CD's, interactive computer learning?

 

[Vladimir Lenin]

yip, has it dawned on you that a college degree is a must?


it's pretty cold in hell this morning

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Do any airlines out there give a flight hour credit or other credit for mandatory home study, either workbooks, CD's, interactive computer learning?

YIP-

Are you talking about company based CD training like 135 Jeppesen type home recurret?

If so, I worked for a few places that did this. It was considered a duty day if you were working on it (I think it technically took 3 days). You could do it at home or the office. I was salary but yes I would guess one cant ask people to do this on thier own time (that would be lame) I also worked for another that gave you a laptop and said do it on the road while sitting in a hotel...again a salary job.

For what its worth, I thought this type of "training" was pretty uselesss...nobody paid any attention or learned anything from it. It was simply a cheap way for a cheap outfit to check the box...IMHO.

If this is not what you were talking about, heck, ignore the above!!

Be well.
G200

 

[bafanguy]

Yip,


If I remember correctly, DL does some version of this. The last time I went to recurrent, I was given a CD in advance and required to review the material and take a test at the end. The test results were transferred to a diskette you had to turn in the first day of class. I think we got one hour flight pay for this.

As G200 said, it's a bit of square filling for the routine stuff. After initially grumbling about it, I decided I preferred sitting in my jammies with a cup of coffee doing this to sitting in a classroom on Virginia Ave.

The FA's do a lot of this stuff.

If used properly ( hasn't been yet ), this is a very valuable teaching tool for seeing that everyone gets the same info, allowing the basics to be covered at your own pace. This allows the instructors to make better use of classroom time filling the gaps and saves the company a bit of $$$.

The problem from my limited exposure to the systems CD's for 727, MD88 is that there isn't sufficiently detailed info put on the CD. It's more of a kindergarden primer than a complete discussion. Considering the power of this technology, a lot more could be put on them. After all, systems are pretty cut and dried. They work like they work so the info isn't revised/updated much as procedural stuff would be ( procedural. FAR, ops specs stuff wouldn't work in this format...too many changes ). You could put just about all you expect people to know about the anatomy/physiology of the beast on a CD and let them study at home with the instructor covering what the student didn't understand from home study.

The CD should include the ability to operate systems from a panel depiction and see what happens on the panel and an accompanying schematic. Remember the old Gemco boards from DC9 school ? Putting something like that on a CD would allow you to move any switch, see the annunciation/ panel indications, and see what relays/valves moved on the schematic. A picture is worth a lot of words.

Delta was approaching this on the MD88 disc with the electrical system. More importantly, there was an FGS/FMS "free play" section where you could load a flight plan and fly it from T/O to landing, make changes just like you would in the airplane. With FMS being as "hands on" as it is, this was a great learning tool.

Well, I sure ran away from the original question, huh ? Ask me what time it is, I'll tell you how to build a clock !! Time for more coffee.

 

[Twotter76]

My airline does this. Usually in the form of internet based training that is required to be completed on our own time. It is assigned a hourly value that is paid in the month that you finish the training. Part of our yearly recurrent is done in this fashion.

 

[LearLove]

Yip,

Yes we do get $$ for home study packets to web/cd program home study. I've had this at both Allegheny and MidAtlantic. The credit ranged from .5 to 2 hours depending on the time required. Home study at ALG cut recurrent training from 3 to 2 days.

 

[avbug]

This last year we were handed CD's from Jeppesen as part of a Distance Learning Program, which covered a certain amount of program recurrent material. Apparently it cut down on the classroom time, and could be handled prior to arriving for class. How much or what credit was actually given, I don't know. I didn't get my CD until I showed up for class, and they still wanted it finished, so I spent each evening hammering it out on my lap top in my room.