CPL above 12,500lbs

[turbosheep]

Hello,

Appreciate any help on the question below:

Can a CPL holder be PIC in a multi-engined jet aircraft with a MTOW above 12,500lbs?

The aircraft is to be operated under FAR91 ruling (non-fractional).

If able/unable, where can I find the reference?

Thank you.

 

[USMCmech]

I will have to double check, but I can't think of any FAR that requires a CPL in order to earn a type rating (PIC over 12,500lbs or any jet).

An instrument rating is not required either, the type rating will be only for VFR flight (which is pretty useless, but it is there).

 

[Lead Sled]

Hello,

Appreciate any help on the question below:

Can a CPL holder be PIC in a multi-engined jet aircraft with a MTOW above 12,500lbs?

The aircraft is to be operated under FAR91 ruling (non-fractional).

If able/unable, where can I find the reference?

Thank you.

You can get a type rating on a PPL, you don't even need to have a CPL. It's actually not all that uncommon - you just have to have the $$$. Back when I was flying a Lear there was a guy come through for a VFR Lear type on a Private certificate - now what's the point with that???

'Sled

 

[Flying Illini]

My DA-10 type is on a Comm. certificate, no problems.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I'm not certain if I understand your question, but if you are asking can a pilot with a commercial pilot license (CPL) be PIC on a large aircraft, i.e. MTOW over 12,500 lbs., then the answer is "yes" if he/she holds the appropriate type rating for the aircraft to be operated. Without the required type rating, one cannot log PIC.

This is addressed in 61.31, "Type rating requirements, additional training, and authorization requirements": http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=c0349368d54bfbbeb5af8a9f65f1bdb0&rgn=div8&view=text&node=14:2.0.1.1.2.1.1.20&idno=14

 

[turbosheep]

Thank you everyone.

What I meant was, is holding a CPL good enough to operate a multi-engine jet above 12,500lbs as PIC?

If not, does the person need to hold an ATPL?

Else a PPL holder can be PIC on a 747, provided the flight is not flown for compensation or hire and that he/she has a type rating.

 

[Guitar Guy]

What I meant was, is holding a CPL good enough to operate a multi-engine jet above 12,500lbs as PIC?

Yes, if that same person has the appropriate type rating.

 

[mattpilot]

you only need an ATP cert once you get into Part 121 flying as a captain.

You only need a CPL if you are doing commercial flying that is not requiring an ATP cert.

Everything else can be done on a PPL.

 

[minitour]

you only need an ATP cert once you get into Part 121 flying as a captain...

...and certain 135 gigs...(135.4a2iiA)

-mini

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

you only need an ATP cert once you get into Part 121 flying as a captain.

You only need a CPL if you are doing commercial flying that is not requiring an ATP cert.

Everything else can be done on a PPL.

As mini said, part 135 turbojet(passengers) requires an ATP.