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mxflyer said:you chose the airline route....you live with it and stay out corporate. You airline guys dont have a chance in the corporate world. I hear car max is looking for some peanut breath, always complaining, whinny little boys to help sell cars.
And retired means retired. They need to fish in a stream, not the 'corporate' pool.English said:A pilot is a pilot. There's no such thing as an "airline" guy or a "corporate" guy.
mxflyer said:You airline guys dont have a chance in the corporate world.
mxflyer said:you chose the airline route....you live with it and stay out corporate. You airline guys dont have a chance in the corporate world. I hear car max is looking for some peanut breath, always complaining, whinny little boys to help sell cars.
English said:A pilot is a pilot. There's no such thing as an "airline" guy or a "corporate" guy.
Spooky 1 said:Well D%^&b S%#t the guy flying the GV out of PHNL has a airline/Air Force background so what more can I say? BTW you sound like a real jerk so stand down while the best qualified pilot gets the job regardless of his career path prior.
I was in GV recurrent and was paired with one of their pilots. Very loose proceedures and very few SOPs. When the instructor and I asked about it, the guy said that they run a dictatorship and haven't developed good, sound proceedures. A lot of 'cause that's the way I've always done it' from the CP. The instructor later told me that all of their pilots fly that way. Just an FYI.GVFlyer said:My dog's not in this fight, I think the best qualified pilot should get the job, but KCE, the CP at Cox Hawaii was a Coastie, with a tour at Gulfstream on his way to Hawaii.
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NJAFracPilot said:You can always count on Ace to say something nice about someone else...
Spooky 1 said:Well I haven't flown with any of them and only know one of the pilots. His background prior to joining Cox was a G1V and GV instructor at FSI. BTW, if any FSI/Simuflite instructor ever talked about me behind my back to another customer pilot I would kick that f%#*ker in the balls and march right over to the other training provider. I am tempted to send this string to the CP at Cox and see what his reaction is. I assume that this individual is the same Coastie that was previously mentioned and the guy I know is ex Air Force, World Airways, FSI, so I think he has had the benefit of some pretty good experience. I can't help but wonder where TCE's would get off by bad moulthing customers in front of other customers, assuming that this is what actually happened. Maybe just more BS that is so common on this site. PS since it appears that you fly a G1V and they fly a GV, how did it happen that you were paired together for this sim ride?
Spooky 1 said:I find your type so disturbing that yes I will send this string over to the CP at Cox later this am. I'll let you guys sort it out since you are the one who posted it in the first place.
I suppose there are issues sometimes when two pilots show up at a training vendor from different operations. While in a perfect world these to pilots would look identical having gone through the same training process and using the same manuals, but in the real world there will be small nuances that can create that unbalanced look and feel to a check ride or recurrent training sim. Certainly this is one of the weak points regarding FSI/Simuflite training programs. I don't say it is all bad, but you certainly miss the opportunity to work with your fellow crewmembers in a more realistic CRM profile. (IMHO)!
I have little training experience at either Simuflite or FSI, but the story around our operation is that you have to be doing extremely poor before you will get a bust or retake of any sort. Is this true? I guess when you are a "customer" it is a little harder to look the guy in the eye and say, sorry but we will have to do that on another day. Kinda screws up the sim schedules I imagine.
I would have to reiderate that for a vendor instructor to besmirch a customer pilot behind his back and in this case cast disperrsions on the whole flight department is without a doubt a completely classless act of stupidy. Not sure who you work for, but I bet that something like this directed at your department would make you mad as hell?
BTW, are you also qualified on the GV? If so congrats. If not WTF were you doing in the sim during a training period with another customer? Maybe just a FAGO, but still seems out of line.
mxflyer said:you chose the airline route....you live with it and stay out corporate. You airline guys dont have a chance in the corporate world. I hear car max is looking for some peanut breath, always complaining, whinny little boys to help sell cars.
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I came to corp. flying from the airlines and got the job over SEVERAL current corp guys because their attitude stunk. I know too many corp guys that B1tch about schedules way more than the average airline jocky. Most airline guys would do well finding a good corp job with their work ethic and professional attitude. Guys like mxflyer complain about a three day trip flying just a couple of legs. Not bad work, but people like mxflyer obviously haven't experienced the hell that airline flying is.