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[Captain X]

How so?

Well you did basically just advertise your bottom line.

 

[densoo]

Well you did basically just advertise your bottom line.

Wow, you think the company's going to offer more than what's on that list? And this list has now limited what the pilots are going to get? I certainly like your optimism.

 

[densoo]

The rates WILL NOT take care of themselves. Without adequate pay rates those at the bottom will never be able to have a "quality of life." They will always be working as much as possible to hang onto their homes and put food on the table. Don't fool yourself...we need pay rates AND work rules.

You are absolutely right. They won't take care of themselves. Anything less that 30% will be an insult. Plus, FO pay must be pegged as a percentage to CA pay forever. That way, if they want to gut FO pay again they'll have to also gut CA pay. That's not going to happen so it'll keep the B-scale from returning. 70%. For example, a 12-CA gets $200, then a 12-year FO gets $140 in the same BES.

Again, though, the reason I de-emphasized this is because if they announce a 30% pay raise and yet gut further a gutted contract, they'll get a 75% yes vote. That's just unacceptable.