Correct terminology - "Go Missed" or "Begin the Missed Approach"

[UndauntedFlyer]

Seems as though in the last 10 years or so I have begun to hear the term "Go Missed" meaning the begining of a missed approach procedure on an IFR approach procedrue. Before that it was always "Execute the Missed" or "Start the Miss" or something like that.

My question is where did the "GO Missed" come from. Personally I think it sounds like "teen talk."

 

[FN FAL]

Seems as though in has been in the last 10 years or so that I began to hear the term "Go Missed" meaning the begining of a missed approach procedure on an IFR approach procedrue. Before that it was always "Execute the Missed" or "Start the Miss" or something like that.

My question is where did the "GO Missed" come from. Personally I think it sounds like "teen talk."

are you talking inside the cockpit or the call to center?

 

[charter dog]

My question is where did the "GO Missed" come from. Personally I think it sounds like "teen talk."

Probably something like that. "we're goin' missed dude."
Our company SOP uses the training center SOP. The script for what to say goes something like this:

Arrival at MAP or DA, and runway not in sight:

PM: "minimums, missed approach." OR "missed approach point, missed approach."

PF: "missed approach."

As for what to tell ATC, there is no specific guidance as to exact wording that I can find. Just that you must inform ATC.

From AIM 5-5-5, pilot/controller roles and responsibilities:

2. Advises ATC that a missed approach will be made. Include the reason for the missed approach unless the missed approach is initiated by ATC.

And from the pilot/controller glossary:

MISSED APPROACH-
a. A maneuver conducted by a pilot when an instrument approach cannot be completed to a landing. The route of flight and altitude are shown on instrument approach procedure charts. A pilot executing a missed approach prior to the Missed Approach Point (MAP) must continue along the final approach to the MAP.
b. A term used by the pilot to inform ATC that he/she is executing the missed approach. (bold emphasis mine)

So it seems that "Podunk approach, 123XZ missed approach, (reason)" would be acceptable. As would addition of the word "executing" and further detail as appropriate. While "going missed" may or may not get the point across, my own efforts at trying to stick to standard phraseology would normally preclude my use of this term. No telling what might come out if I'm not thinking!

Best,

 

[FN FAL]

I probably have at least 1000 approaches in my log book, but only a few missed approaches. What would be the significance of the wording, just as long as center understood what was going on? Unless you're talking about some kind of CRW misinterpretation problem.

I very rarely go missed, because 135 regs provide that I have mins before I cross the final approach fix. In addition, 135 regs provide that I cannot file for an airport that has forecast weather that is below mins. So "going missed" is not something I come across that often in the 135 world.

 

[charter dog]

Me either. Maybe 2 or 3 missed approaches in the last 5 years on actual flights. Probably 50 or more in the sim, plus a couple dozen more while conducting training in the airplane. It just doesn't come up that often for me in the real world.

My desire to use standard phraseology probably stems from a combination of my sense of propriety and the belief that establishing consistent patterns of actions and communication helps to get me through training events with a lower level of stress!

I don't mean to suggest that this particular radio call is going to get anybody in trouble, but the original post seemed to me to be directed toward establishing what the most proper terminology would be. That's my take on it. What's yours?

Best,

 

[midlifeflyer]

So it seems that "Podunk approach, 123XZ missed approach, (reason)" would be acceptable.

Why your emphasis on the word "reason?" Yes, it might be helpful to let ATC know whether it was because the weather was below published minimums or something else ("Podunk Approach, 123XZ missed approach. I just got my instrument ticket last week. I feel uncomfortable going all the way to minimums, so I decided I'd only go as far down as 800 AGL, so I am going missed now and, well, I..."), but the emphasis suggests that the reason is of equal or even more importance that the simple notification that you are executing the missed.

 

[nosehair]

("Podunk Approach, 123XZ missed approach. I just got my instrument ticket last week. I feel uncomfortable going all the way to minimums, so I decided I'd only go as far down as 800 AGL, so I am going missed now and, well, I..."), quote]

...little shy about that one. ere ye, Mark? Don't worry. it'll pass.

Actually that is one good reason to state the reason, so others won't think it is weather.

AIM 5-5-5 a. 2. Advises ATC that a missed approach will be made. Include the reason for the missed approach unless the missed approach is iniated by ATC.

 

[timeoff]

Had an instructor that would like to say "we are on the miss". Luckily I only flew with him a couple of times.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

are you talking inside the cockpit or the call to center?

I am mostly talking in the cockpit briefing or even just during ground discussion talk about approach procedures.

I think that all of "Charter Dog's" answers on this subject are completely accurate. Especially when he suggests that it comes from common young peoples language. I have read of young pilots saying things like "Hey dude, we're not going to make it," or "Hey dude, let's join the 4-1-0 club," or even as Charter Dog points out, comments similar to, "He dude, we're guna go missed if we don't see nothin." The term "go missed" is just a carry over of high school "teen talk," or "valley girl" talk, or so it seems.

The correct terms are explained in Charter Dog's posts.

 

[b82rez]

If you really care about whether the guy you're flying with says "I'm going missed" instead of "I'm executing a missed approach" then you might have your priorities out of whack.

Of course you do have the three or four seconds while the engines are spooling up.....you could always correct him at that piont.