Continental, United plane orders worth $22 bln

[FlyinPiker]

Didn't realize United still had narrow bodies on order.


CONTINENTAL -----------
AIRBUS
None
BOEING 22 737-700 single-aisle $1,408m 13 737-800 single-aisle $998m 6 737-900ER single-aisle $489m 3 777-200ER wide-body $437m 11 787-8 wide-body $1,829m 14 787-9 wide-body $2,797m Total Boeing $7,958m
Total Airbus + Boeing $7,958m


UNITED ------
AIRBUS 23 A319 single-aisle $1,711m 19 A320 single-aisle $1,547m 25 A350-900 wide-body $6,363m Total Airbus $9,621m
BOEING 25 787-8 wide-body $4,156m
Total Boeing $4,156m
Total Airbus + Boeing $13,777m

MERGED AIRLINE -------------- Airbus $9,621m Boeing $12,114m Airbus + Boeing $21,735m

 

[turbinej]

Watch they probably will cancel the Airbus orders. They will work out a deal with Boeing to cancel and get them to pay the cancellation penalty.

 

[johnsonrod]

Watch they probably will cancel the Airbus orders. They will work out a deal with Boeing to cancel and get them to pay the cancellation penalty.

Do you think this could lead to adding more Boeings to the combined fleet over time and reducing the Airbus footprint?

I don't think that makes much sense even though CAL has been an exclusive Boeing customer. At the end of the day, you want negotiating leverage between the manufacturers to get the best prices...

 

[Homer Jay]

Didn't realize United still had narrow bodies on order.


CONTINENTAL -----------
AIRBUS
None
BOEING 22 737-700 single-aisle $1,408m 13 737-800 single-aisle $998m 6 737-900ER single-aisle $489m 3 777-200ER wide-body $437m 11 787-8 wide-body $1,829m 14 787-9 wide-body $2,797m Total Boeing $7,958m
Total Airbus + Boeing $7,958m


UNITED ------
AIRBUS 23 A319 single-aisle $1,711m 19 A320 single-aisle $1,547m 25 A350-900 wide-body $6,363m Total Airbus $9,621m
BOEING 25 787-8 wide-body $4,156m
Total Boeing $4,156m
Total Airbus + Boeing $13,777m

MERGED AIRLINE -------------- Airbus $9,621m Boeing $12,114m Airbus + Boeing $21,735m

We're getting more 737-700's? That's news to me. Did they convert some of the orders from 800/900er's to 700's?

 

[bluefin]

UAL does not have A319/A320's on order they cancelled that about 2 yrs ago for 90 mil.

 

[thor2j]

These numbers are not accurate. There are no more 737-700 orders, and many more 800 and 900s.

 

[Plug]

CAL has board members from Boeing. I don't think it would be a stretch for the combined airline to excercise all Boeing options to replace the Airbus.

 

[bluechunks]

UAL does not have A319/A320's on order they cancelled that about 2 yrs ago for 90 mil.

Not quite.

UA wrote off the value of the deposits from its ledger, but the orders were never cancelled.

 

[densoo]

I think "they" (Jeff) will work towards an all Boeing fleet. May take years, but the cost savings are enormous over the long term. CAL has only three fleet types. Aside from maintenance cost savings, each pilot is trained on just one of these three types, reducing training cycles ongoing.

Even more, they've standardized the checklists, procedures, and evals among the three types so that a person who transfers equipment has minimal training required since the operation of the planes are as similar as possible. The main difference is the destination ops (international vice domestic), but even this gap is narrowing a bit with domestic 737s flying Pacific ETOPs now, and Guam 737s having done so for years now.

 

[FlyinPiker]

This is the link (not that it matters...i'd believe you guys before I believe the press any day):

http://www.reuters.com/article/idCNLDE6420IM20100503?rpc=44