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Ex737Driver

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Some things are looking up. CAL has been running so short for the past 1 1/2 years, they have reached the breaking point with sick calls, junior manning, CA flying as FO, and cancelled flights. Some rumor of new flying has been put forward also, but most of this is related to just plain short staffing.

Press Release

Source: Continental Airlines





Continental Airlines and ALPA Announce Pilot Recall
Thursday August 12, 12:20 pm ET

HOUSTON, Aug. 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL - News) and the Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) today announced the recall by Continental of at least 240 pilots from furlough by the middle of next spring, pending a special Recall Agreement between Continental and ALPA. Pilot recalls are expected to occur at the rate of about 30 per month, the maximum feasible number given the company's available training facilities. These recalls are in addition to 197 pilots recalled by Continental since January 2004. There are currently 436 Continental pilots on furlough.

The Recall Agreement, which outlines the way the pilots return to work, is the culmination of the joint efforts of Continental and ALPA working together to ensure that the recall is handled in a manner that is efficient and provides the best return to work opportunities for pilots.

"This recall has been facilitated by ALPA's ability to work with us on the terms of the recall," said Continental President and Chief Operating Officer Larry Kellner. "Together we have created a solution that gets the majority of our furloughed pilots back to work."

"Our current cooperative relationship of working together with management continues to pay dividends for our pilots and our airline," said Captain Jay Panarello, chairman of the CAL Master Executive Council of the Air Line Pilots Association, which represents the Continental pilots. "Continental President Larry Kellner and his team are to be commended for addressing our staffing concerns."

"We are pleased to welcome our pilots back to our flight decks," said Capt. Debbie McCoy, Continental's senior vice president flight operations.

Continental Airlines is the world's sixth-largest airline with more than 2,900 daily departures throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia. Continental serves 149 domestic and 119 international destinations -- more than any other airline in the world -- and nearly 200 additional points are served via codeshare partner airlines. With 42,000 employees, the airline has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and carries approximately 51 million passengers per year. In 2004, Continental has earned awards and critical acclaim for both its operation and its corporate culture. FORTUNE ranks Continental one of the 100 Best Companies to Work For in America, an honor it has earned for six consecutive years, and also ranks Continental as the top airline in its Most Admired Global Companies in 2004. The carrier won major awards at the 2004 OAG Airline of the Year Awards including "Airline of the Year," "Best Airline Based in North America" and "Best Executive/Business Class." For more company information, visit continental.com .

The Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) is the bargaining agent for the 6,500 pilots of Continental and Continental Express. ALPA is the world's oldest and largest pilot union, representing 66,000 air line pilots at 42 airlines in the U.S. and Canada.





Source: Continental Airlines
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CRJDog said:
Glad to have you all back working again. Good luck to all furloughees!!
Yeah, these CAL furloughees have had it rough the last few years making $60K a year at XJT. It is the FO's at XJT who are the beneficiaries of this. Now some of them can get off of welfare and upgrade.
 
Man, I don't doubt that the flowbacks have been very hard on some aspiring FOs the last 3 years. I'm NOT mocking you when I ask this.

How did the Cont Exp guys like the flow through agreement pre 9/11?

Again...I'm asking...not mocking....but a lot of folks at various carriers found out flowthrough agreements flow both ways. Definately something to consider when the next contracts roll around.

Good luck and hope things get better for all of you...
 
AlbieF15 said:
Man, I don't doubt that the flowbacks have been very hard on some aspiring FOs the last 3 years. I'm NOT mocking you when I ask this.

How did the Cont Exp guys like the flow through agreement pre 9/11?

Again...I'm asking...not mocking....but a lot of folks at various carriers found out flowthrough agreements flow both ways. Definately something to consider when the next contracts roll around.

Good luck and hope things get better for all of you...

The problem was that the flow-back did not happen the way that it should have. ExpressJet does not have a "flush bid" clause anywhere in our contract. However, under a MOU that the CAL NC (not XJT) negotiated one was allowed in order to open up postions for the "off the street" guys coming back. Had we not run this flush bid then not as many ExpressJet pilots would have been furloughed. The OTS guys would only get a postion when one opened up like in a normal system or "perm" bid.

Had the contract not been adjusted in the MOU then I as well as a few hundred other XJT pilots would have been captains three years ago instead of scraping by on less than 2000 dollars a month.

You would be hearing a lot less complaining from the XJT pilots had our contract been followed to the letter. This is all something that was brushed under the table rather quietly and even most of the CAL and XJT pilots don't know this story. I do because a few months after all this happened I was elected to the CALALPA MEC and spent two years there.
 
Grievance?

Capt. Caucasian said:
The problem was that the flow-back did not happen the way that it should have. ExpressJet does not have a "flush bid" clause anywhere in our contract. However, under a MOU that the CAL NC (not XJT) negotiated one was allowed in order to open up postions for the "off the street" guys coming back. Had we not run this flush bid then not as many ExpressJet pilots would have been furloughed. The OTS guys would only get a postion when one opened up like in a normal system or "perm" bid.

Had the contract not been adjusted in the MOU then I as well as a few hundred other XJT pilots would have been captains three years ago instead of scraping by on less than 2000 dollars a month.

You would be hearing a lot less complaining from the XJT pilots had our contract been followed to the letter. This is all something that was brushed under the table rather quietly and even most of the CAL and XJT pilots don't know this story. I do because a few months after all this happened I was elected to the CALALPA MEC and spent two years there.
If you think the contract wasn't followed did you file a grievance?
 
GogglesPisano said:
If you think the contract wasn't followed did you file a grievance?
Like that would do anything at CALALPA. SCABS run the show at CALALPA so not much gets done that should get done. Now that XJT and CAL have seperate MEC's, something might get done that actually benefits the XJT guys.
 
Truckdriver said:
Like that would do anything at CALALPA. SCABS run the show at CALALPA so not much gets done that should get done. Now that XJT and CAL have seperate MEC's, something might get done that actually benefits the XJT guys.

bingo

Also, it is hard to file a grievance when the contract is rewritten. For once it wasn't the company's fault on this one... so much.
 
Capt. Caucasian said:
The problem was that the flow-back did not happen the way that it should have. ExpressJet does not have a "flush bid" clause anywhere in our contract. However, under a MOU that the CAL NC (not XJT) negotiated one was allowed in order to open up postions for the "off the street" guys coming back. Had we not run this flush bid then not as many ExpressJet pilots would have been furloughed. The OTS guys would only get a postion when one opened up like in a normal system or "perm" bid.

Had the contract not been adjusted in the MOU then I as well as a few hundred other XJT pilots would have been captains three years ago instead of scraping by on less than 2000 dollars a month.

You would be hearing a lot less complaining from the XJT pilots had our contract been followed to the letter. This is all something that was brushed under the table rather quietly and even most of the CAL and XJT pilots don't know this story. I do because a few months after all this happened I was elected to the CALALPA MEC and spent two years there.
Sorry JT, I'm going to have to raise the BS flag on this one. Please quote where in the current contact or in any of the LOA's that it states the CAL pilots will flow back only into open vacancies. Good luck.

Sam
 
Sam Fisher said:
Sorry JT, I'm going to have to raise the BS flag on this one. Please quote where in the current contact or in any of the LOA's that it states the CAL pilots will flow back only into open vacancies. Good luck.

Sam
I agree. LOA #7 outlines this pretty clearly and obviously wasn't created post 9/11 as it was signed 6/25/98.

Section 2.B

A furloughed CAL pilot not seeking to exercise rights pursuant to Paragraph A above may exercise his seniority to displace a COEX pilot other than a protected rights pilot provided that the number of pilot positions at COEX available to furloughed CAL pilots will be limited to the total number of pilots transitioning to CAL under the PDP or this Agreement Pilots electing to exercise their CAL seniority rights at COEX list on the basis of their CAL date of hire.......

I still can't believe that after almost 3 years that some folks still haven't bothered to read the language that put us in this position. Just easier to blame CAL, scabs and the union. Of course in this case you need to blame IACP rather than ALPA as this was under their watch.
 

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