Competitive?

[barracuda]

I will be applying to netjets and citationshares as soon as I get my ATP certificate next weekend but am not sure how competitive I am. Can some of you with experiences there enlighten me a little.

I have (roughly) 3300TT, 1000 PIC turbine, 1500 Multi, and a SA227 type rating. No crew time.

I heard a lot of high time guys are trying to get on there and that's why I'm wondering. If that's true then I won't hold my breath and try to exercise other options.

Any helpful information is appreciated.

 

[Wacopilot]

how do you have a type rating, 1k PIC Turbine and no ATP?

Waco

 

[Stickshaker]

I bet it is Caravan (sp?) Time.

 

[Stickshaker]

Do yourself a big favor. If you want a job, go to Citation Shares. If you want a Career, go to Netjets.
C/S has no Union and they have no protection. Working there is like playing Russian Roulette, sooner or later there going to get the big bang. Seriously, some of them know it, and the others have the koolaid and haven't come out of the closet yet to admit it.
Good luck.

 

[SE-30]

Those flight times are easy to get at Ameriflight within 2 years.

I got an interview date 2 days after going to a job fair. Please PM me if you have any questions.

 

[Chewbacca]

Do yourself a big favor. If you want a job, go to Citation Shares. If you want a Career, go to Netjets.
C/S has no Union and they have no protection. Working there is like playing Russian Roulette, sooner or later there going to get the big bang. Seriously, some of them know it, and the others have the koolaid and haven't come out of the closet yet to admit it.
Good luck.

Haha, you remind me of that dude from Office Space that wants his stapler back. Run for the hills, its a Hill Billy! Yeeeeeeeehawwwwww!

 

[208starcheck]

I say apply. With a rec you can definitely get an interview. If you don't have a rec I would still try. I know a couple guys that had less then those times.


Keep the faith

 

[barracuda]

thanks guys.

To answer all your questions, it's all Beech 99 and Metro time and I was too young to get my ATP when I got typed. Which brings up another point. Is my age going to hurt me or help me if I interview? On the citation shares website they make a big deal about the "maturity" of their pilots. Are they looking for older guys?


Thanks again for the input.

 

[xpdriver]

thanks guys.

To answer all your questions, it's all Beech 99 and Metro time and I was too young to get my ATP when I got typed. Which brings up another point. Is my age going to hurt me or help me if I interview? On the citation shares website they make a big deal about the "maturity" of their pilots. Are they looking for older guys?


Thanks again for the input.

That is a selling point for there future owners.(maturity).Means nothing< if you have the time you can get the job..look into both(nja<cs) to see what you want.(home basing,schedule,money,benefits,career advancement etc..)

good luck.

 

[brokeflyer]

how do you have a type rating, 1k PIC Turbine and no ATP?

Waco

If you know your regs, you only need an ATP when flying part 135 in a turbojet. You can have a private pilot license and go get a type in a 747 if you want.

 

[milehigh6080]

If you know your regs, you only need an ATP when flying part 135 in a turbojet. You can have a private pilot license and go get a type in a 747 if you want.

You don't even need it then, you only need your ATP flying a turbojet with pax. If it's a freighter, you're good with a commercial and a type.

 

[Stickshaker]

If you know someone, it helps.

 

[208starcheck]

You don't even need it then, you only need your ATP flying a turbojet with pax. If it's a freighter, you're good with a commercial and a type.

Wrong answer. Please try again.

 

[milehigh6080]

I could be wrong, happens all the time, but here's how the reg reads:

Sec. 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.

(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person
serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations--
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat
configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or
of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119
of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot
certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if
required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.

 

[208starcheck]

Hmmm, I will reread/research to "try" to prove myself right. Not looking good right now though.

 

[rk772]

Hmmm, I will reread/research to "try" to prove myself right. Not looking good right now though.

I flew cargo for a couple of years in a Metro-Pig with only a SA-227 type and a commercial. It was now until I was flying pax. in a citation that I needed my ATP.

 

[finnjl]

Do yourself a big favor. If you want a job, go to Citation Shares. If you want a Career, go to Netjets.
C/S has no Union and they have no protection. Working there is like playing Russian Roulette, sooner or later there going to get the big bang. Seriously, some of them know it, and the others have the koolaid and haven't come out of the closet yet to admit it.
Good luck.

What are you talking about? Protection from what? If the company is not doing so well a Union does no good at all. Look at the airlines.

 

[CapnVegetto]

I could be wrong, happens all the time, but here's how the reg reads:

Sec. 135.243 Pilot in command qualifications.

(a) No certificate holder may use a person, nor may any person
serve, as pilot in command in passenger-carrying operations--
(1) Of a turbojet airplane, of an airplane having a passenger-seat
configuration, excluding each crewmember seat, of 10 seats or more, or
of a multiengine airplane in a commuter operation as defined in part 119
of this chapter, unless that person holds an airline transport pilot
certificate with appropriate category and class ratings and, if
required, an appropriate type rating for that airplane.

SA227 isn't a turbojet. And I'd imagine it's not pax carrying either.....it's probably cargo.

 

[milehigh6080]

SA227 isn't a turbojet. And I'd imagine it's not pax carrying either.....it's probably cargo.

That has nothing to do with why I posted the reg. Look at 208Starcheck's post above mine.

 

[Stickshaker]

What are you talking about? Protection from what? If the company is not doing so well a Union does no good at all. Look at the airlines.

Fin,
When A company isn't doing all that well, thats when you need a union the most! Can you Imagen how much bigger the pay cuts and lost of pensions would be if there was no union at all.

Also, I'm not talking about the financial books, I'm talking about a million little things that make a big deal in life. It's called quality of life.
I could give a thousand examples but don't have time. Here are a few.

-OK guys, times are tough, starting next week you will work 8 on and 6 off. Sorry, you have no say.

- no more crew food whenever you want it, Sorry, you have no say.

-we can't afford your 401k matching anymore, Sorry, you have no say.

- I know NJA received a 40k bonus, but we don't have to give you S^*&, Sorry, you have no say.

-I know your friend at NJA has 12 sick days a year and 3 weeks vacation a year, But he also has a union.

NO more soup for you!