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aeropharoh

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what are the true hiring mins to be competitive at NJ? Of the majority of people being hired what are their backgrounds? How heavily do rec letters weigh internal and non-internal? also http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/fractional/netjets.html
says NJ plans to hire 400 pilots, is that still accurate, and how many of those are being filled monthly. Final question how many are being interviewed monthly. Thanks in advance
 
I'm not sure about competitive hiring mins, but I've been given an April interview with a little over 4000tt and 130 jet pic. I don't have any internal recs. My background was airline then charter/corporate now.
 
I'm guessing closer to 220-240 this year. I just don't see the FSI slots available to do any more. So far the Jan/Feb numbers support this guess.

I think competitive is the minimums. This company doesn't hire pilots based on their flight times. We hire pilots who know how to handle our owners.

I was hired while guys from XXX 121 with four million hours of heavy, international, 16 engine sort of stuff were told no thanks. And I had 0.0 internal recs.

Good luck!
 
The "true hiring mins"- 4000tt, 1000+ jet (PIC or SIC) seem to be popular numbers.

Every now and then you see a CIVILIAN guy with not jet experience or right at 2500tt get the call, but that doesn't happen too often.
 
DAS at 10/250 said:
I was hired while guys from XXX 121 with four million hours of heavy, international, 16 engine sort of stuff were told no thanks. And I had 0.0 internal recs.

Good luck!
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And NetJets is regretting that move every moment of every day.

I am going to go watch a movie in the airplane and eat my huge crew meal. The take a post lunch nap on the airplanes couch.

Tim
 
Thanks for all the info. How many/class and how many classes/mo. Glad to know the internal rec does not weigh to heavily. the NJ group has been somewhat elusive for me.
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The minimums are listed on the web site.
However, if you want to get hired you better have customer service skills, the right attitude, and the ability to think on your feet. If you look like a deer in headlights, I think you will be hard pressed to get on with NJA. Rec letters will help get the interview but once you are in the door, you are on your own.

I was told 451 pilots for 2008 in recurrent a couple of months ago.:pimp:
 
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Directly from the mouth from one of the hiring team members....internal recs are VERY important and weigh heavily in the process.
 
Aerop, to be competitive you need to pass all aspects of the interview. They are looking for well rounded individuals (both pilot skills and CS skill) and unfortunately (because 2 airlines failed just this week) at this time there is a large pool to draw from. To stay that anyone aspect is looked at more than the other, I think, would be a false statement. Folks are being turned away left and right because they are not making it through ALL phases.

You definitely want to bone up on the aviation aspects, it can be tough. As for the CS portion think about what it would take (hold yourself to a very high standard) to satisfy you if you were an owner should a problem arise and don't stop until the problem is solved.

As far as attitude, personality, you won't BS your way through that, you either have it or you don't.

Good luck.
 
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JungleJett said:
I am going to go watch a movie in the airplane and eat my huge crew meal. The take a post lunch nap on the airplanes couch.

Tim
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That has already been done by a Hawker new hire waiting on passengers. Glad to say he is no longer with us. It amazes me how he even got the job.

How the hiring process has changed in just a short time.
 
JungleJett said:
Directly from the mouth from one of the hiring team members....internal recs are VERY important and weigh heavily in the process.
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12,000 jet but no internal rec. and going on 5 months since the "app. accepted" email; I'd say the key to an interview is the rec.
 
One thing that did stick out in my INDOC with JungleJett was the diversity of our class.

IIRC we had 3 regional 121's, 1 Evergreen, 2 121(?) freight, 3 135's, and 1 91.

I don't think NJ is looking at a specific background. I do believe the above posters are correct in that they are looking for a well rounded package in customer service and piloting skills.

Whatever they do they do it well. We had a great group of guys that you'd have no problem spending a week on the road with. Everyone except those G200 guys!:D
 
If you have an interview date, you have a chance. Regardless of total time, ect, as long as your logbooks confirm that you meet NJA mins, you have your shot. You just have to be positive, proactive, and personable. And have good hygiene.

And those of you with less than 4000 hours that have a date need to thank your lucky stars because after today the things got a lot more competitive.

NetJets has thrown in the gauntlet with reference to Santulli's thoughts on XO Jet. Right now this is the place to be, and if you're still thinking about it, then you are way behind the power curve.

Apply!!!!
 
JungleJett said:
Take a deep breath, relax and see a joke when there is one there.
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Breathing deeply here. I just think it is funny that you, I and everybody else would only joke about that and my sim partner thought there was nothing wrong with it. How he got hired I cannot tell you. I think it is sad that at one time not to long ago, people like that got hired and other quality pilots, with a lot more flying and customer service experience than this person, never got the chance to put on the gold tie. How things have changed.

On a side note, welcome to NetJets. What fleet did you get?
 
"Whatever they do they do it well. We had a great group of guys that you'd have no problem spending a week on the road with. Everyone except those G200 guys!:D"



DAS not to worry he has been gone since early December.
 
New NJA hiring policy!

aeropharoh said:
what are the true hiring mins to be competitive at NJ? Of the majority of people being hired what are their backgrounds? How heavily do rec letters weigh internal and non-internal? also http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/fractional/netjets.html
says NJ plans to hire 400 pilots, is that still accurate, and how many of those are being filled monthly. Final question how many are being interviewed monthly. Thanks in advance
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BREAKING NEWS!!!

Forget the hours, forget the customer service skills!

This from a "well placed source" high up in management wannabees...this is the straight skinny.

Forthwith, all applicants will be forced to "fess-up" to their Flightinfo.com "nom du plume" and all of their posts and PM's will be analyzed for spelling and grammar. Anyone caught with a mis-used word, mis-spelled word, or improper punctuation will have their application shredded. Anyone who has flamed another pilot on any forum will be denied even so much as a courtesy "no-thanks". The company has determined that Flightinfo.com is an excellent predictor of how each applicant will represent NJA to the owners.

NetJets is now making plans for operating with far fewer pilots....!!!

And that's the TRUTH....sorta.

Well, actually, not at all.:blush:
 
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Willy21 said:
Breathing deeply here. I just think it is funny that you, I and everybody else would only joke about that and my sim partner thought there was nothing wrong with it. How he got hired I cannot tell you. I think it is sad that at one time not to long ago, people like that got hired and other quality pilots, with a lot more flying and customer service experience than this person, never got the chance to put on the gold tie. How things have changed.

On a side note, welcome to NetJets. What fleet did you get?
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There always be some who make it but usually reveal themselves in the end...and pay the price.

G200....
 
Hey guys,

I have an interview scheduled for later this month. My approximate times are 5500TT, 3400 jet (1300 PIC), 1600 turbine (600 PIC). My background is strictly 121 passenger and had 0 internal recs. Sent in my app late Jan. I was surprised to get the email so soon. It's going to be hard to dump my "sit down and shut up" airline trained attitude but looking forward to interviewing.

Good luck to all.
 
The keys to the interview are straight forward. You must have the technical knowledge, you must put safety first in all situations, customer service is very important. In the sim you should show progression. It is squirelly but not that difficult. CRM is a must, especially when you are the pilot not flying. Give your partner a PAR on the approach. Verbalize the entry to hold. Give speed, glideslope and centerline calls.
I was hired last year at this time with 2553 tt, military. My interview sim partner was hired as a single seat, zero jet time, cargo pilot. He is on the 680 and I am on the 750. What your resume says, matters little, once you are in Columbus for the interview.
The rumor mill is currently churning out an interview pass rate of somewhere between 30-40%. Good luck.
 
I have recieved the application accepted email. If the application was sent in w/o mistakes and meets the minimum requirements is this email automatic or is it the first decision made by HR to keep you going to the next step of the process?

I'm asking this question in this thread because I just meet the minimum requirements. The question is did I get the email and into the system just because I have the min's or have they looked over it and now I might be considered for a possible interview.
 
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billy2331 said:
I have recieved the application accepted email. If the application was sent in w/o mistakes and meets the minimum requirements is this email automatic or is it the first decision made by HR to keep you going to the next step of the process?

I'm asking this question in this thread because I just meet the minimum requirements. The question is did I get the email and into the system just because I have the min's or have they looked over it and now I might be considered for a possible interview.
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You are in the pool to interview. I have heard of rejected apps from the start.
 

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