competitive at NJ

[aeropharoh]

what are the true hiring mins to be competitive at NJ? Of the majority of people being hired what are their backgrounds? How heavily do rec letters weigh internal and non-internal? also http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/fractional/netjets.html
says NJ plans to hire 400 pilots, is that still accurate, and how many of those are being filled monthly. Final question how many are being interviewed monthly. Thanks in advance

 

[JJDriver]

I'm not sure about competitive hiring mins, but I've been given an April interview with a little over 4000tt and 130 jet pic. I don't have any internal recs. My background was airline then charter/corporate now.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

I'm guessing closer to 220-240 this year. I just don't see the FSI slots available to do any more. So far the Jan/Feb numbers support this guess.

I think competitive is the minimums. This company doesn't hire pilots based on their flight times. We hire pilots who know how to handle our owners.

I was hired while guys from XXX 121 with four million hours of heavy, international, 16 engine sort of stuff were told no thanks. And I had 0.0 internal recs.

Good luck!

 

[CALRepublic]

The "true hiring mins"- 4000tt, 1000+ jet (PIC or SIC) seem to be popular numbers.

Every now and then you see a CIVILIAN guy with not jet experience or right at 2500tt get the call, but that doesn't happen too often.

 

[JungleJett]

I was hired while guys from XXX 121 with four million hours of heavy, international, 16 engine sort of stuff were told no thanks. And I had 0.0 internal recs.

Good luck!

And NetJets is regretting that move every moment of every day.

I am going to go watch a movie in the airplane and eat my huge crew meal. The take a post lunch nap on the airplanes couch.

Tim

 

[aeropharoh]

Thanks for all the info. How many/class and how many classes/mo. Glad to know the internal rec does not weigh to heavily. the NJ group has been somewhat elusive for me.
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[aeropharoh]

oops sorry DAS I guess I could do the math and figure out the monthly #
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[captain dad]

The minimums are listed on the web site.
However, if you want to get hired you better have customer service skills, the right attitude, and the ability to think on your feet. If you look like a deer in headlights, I think you will be hard pressed to get on with NJA. Rec letters will help get the interview but once you are in the door, you are on your own.

I was told 451 pilots for 2008 in recurrent a couple of months ago.imp:

 

[hyflyin]

And NetJets is regretting that move every moment of every day.

I am going to go watch a movie in the airplane and eat my huge crew meal. The take a post lunch nap on the airplanes couch.

Tim

I wanna couch!!!

 

[jonjuan]

Every now and then you see a CIVILIAN guy with not jet experience or right at 2500tt get the call, but that doesn't happen too often.

How do you know this? Are you in HR?

 

[JungleJett]

Directly from the mouth from one of the hiring team members....internal recs are VERY important and weigh heavily in the process.

 

[hyflyin]

Aerop, to be competitive you need to pass all aspects of the interview. They are looking for well rounded individuals (both pilot skills and CS skill) and unfortunately (because 2 airlines failed just this week) at this time there is a large pool to draw from. To stay that anyone aspect is looked at more than the other, I think, would be a false statement. Folks are being turned away left and right because they are not making it through ALL phases.

You definitely want to bone up on the aviation aspects, it can be tough. As for the CS portion think about what it would take (hold yourself to a very high standard) to satisfy you if you were an owner should a problem arise and don't stop until the problem is solved.

As far as attitude, personality, you won't BS your way through that, you either have it or you don't.

Good luck.

 

[Willy21]

I am going to go watch a movie in the airplane and eat my huge crew meal. The take a post lunch nap on the airplanes couch.

Tim

That has already been done by a Hawker new hire waiting on passengers. Glad to say he is no longer with us. It amazes me how he even got the job.

How the hiring process has changed in just a short time.

 

[reepicheep]

Directly from the mouth from one of the hiring team members....internal recs are VERY important and weigh heavily in the process.

12,000 jet but no internal rec. and going on 5 months since the "app. accepted" email; I'd say the key to an interview is the rec.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

One thing that did stick out in my INDOC with JungleJett was the diversity of our class.

IIRC we had 3 regional 121's, 1 Evergreen, 2 121(?) freight, 3 135's, and 1 91.

I don't think NJ is looking at a specific background. I do believe the above posters are correct in that they are looking for a well rounded package in customer service and piloting skills.

Whatever they do they do it well. We had a great group of guys that you'd have no problem spending a week on the road with. Everyone except those G200 guys!

 

[JungleJett]

How the hiring process has changed in just a short time.

Seems to me it has gotten quite a bit tighter.

Take a deep breath, relax and see a joke when there is one there.

 

[petitepilot]

If you have an interview date, you have a chance. Regardless of total time, ect, as long as your logbooks confirm that you meet NJA mins, you have your shot. You just have to be positive, proactive, and personable. And have good hygiene.

And those of you with less than 4000 hours that have a date need to thank your lucky stars because after today the things got a lot more competitive.

NetJets has thrown in the gauntlet with reference to Santulli's thoughts on XO Jet. Right now this is the place to be, and if you're still thinking about it, then you are way behind the power curve.

Apply!!!!

 

[Helmsalee]

Reepicheep, if you haven't already you need to be updating your stuff. Shows them you are eager. MHO

 

[Willy21]

Take a deep breath, relax and see a joke when there is one there.

Breathing deeply here. I just think it is funny that you, I and everybody else would only joke about that and my sim partner thought there was nothing wrong with it. How he got hired I cannot tell you. I think it is sad that at one time not to long ago, people like that got hired and other quality pilots, with a lot more flying and customer service experience than this person, never got the chance to put on the gold tie. How things have changed.

On a side note, welcome to NetJets. What fleet did you get?

 

[e=mc2]

"Whatever they do they do it well. We had a great group of guys that you'd have no problem spending a week on the road with. Everyone except those G200 guys!"



DAS not to worry he has been gone since early December.