Compass For Sale ?

[NoJoy]

rtmcfi I think your avatar is in the top 10 on flightinfo. We seriously need to vote who has the best avatar-the winner gets a keg of Hamms.

 

[OneBadLT123]

Didnt Compass just move HQ and all over to MSP at the beginning of the year?

 

[Moustache]

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Didnt Compass just move HQ and all over to MSP at the beginning of the year?

Yes they did

 

[dwhsunday]

1. Delta sells compass to compass.

2. Compass buys Northwests old operating certificate.

3. Compass pilots decided to be bigger ****************************** bags than Repubic pilots and operate the same fleet type as delta for 50% less pay.

4. I get to fly a big jet for sub standard wages.

 

[aewanabe]

That's a 175 in your profile; aren't you already flying a mini Airbus for sub-standard wages?

 

[Ad Lib]

Another angle on this... watch ALPA's feet.

• ALPA negotiated the creation of Compass "off the property" while management acknowledged these airplanes' role as DC9 replacements.
• ALPA bragged about getting bargaining credits for Compass's creation. These credits would be used to negotiate better terms for the rest of the list. The loss of job security and career progression for the DC9 guys was somehow sold to them with the flow through agreement.
• ALPA negotiated to REMOVE the scope protections from mainline contracts that had restricted ACA when they began the Independence Air operation.
• ALPA failed to even ask about Compass when Delta management had mergers on its mind.
• ALPA bifurcated Compass from Delta's representational structure after the merger.

Delta has a crippling debt burden. To survive and prosper this debt must be reduced. To finance the next generation of jets Delta needs to demonstrate its ability to manage and reduce debt levels.

ALPA maintains a structural belief that there are flying jobs which are beneath the status of its preferred mainline members. Small jets and small pay are treated like a toxin that must be kept from poisoning mainline rates. A recent article called it "cross subsidization" but in reality it is just selling the junior pilots' jobs for a perceived benefit to be enjoyed by the more senior pilots.

While ALPA can't force management to sell operations, they can work to facilitate management's ability to outsource jobs.

As for a Compass sale, it does make sense. I think everyone is trying to hold their cards close until the drama over outsourcing 100 to 130 seats plays out. If even larger RJ's are outsourced the value of Compass and its jets will fall precipitously, like Comair's value did when that airline no longer operated the biggest, latest and greatest. No one wants to buy yesterdays news.

 

[saabservant]

They have already outsourced over 50% of domestic routes.
Should they (alpa) allow even bigger aircraft, the next time a major hits a release
from section 6 bargaining management will shrug it's shoulders and say let them strike. And no fantasy LOA about definition of struck work will be approved...

Pitchforks and torches to alpa national if they sign any more contracts allowing ANY more outsourcing!

 

[BoeingBaller]

If Compass is sold does the flow up agreement stay in tact or could it become null and void if Compass is sold off by DAL??

Null and void. The plan from the beginning. It is just another $hitty regional.

 

[DYLIN]

Null and void. The plan from the beginning. It is just another $hitty regional.

Totally wrong, read all the replies in this thread and you will find the correct answer.

 

[BeCareful!]

What? Are you guys implying that a deal was engineered by J. Glass that created an alter ego airline, using Large RJ's, obliterated a bunch of scope in the process, and now it's going to be sold to the detriment of mainline pilots?

I warned every NWA pilot I knew about this happening, because it's almost exactly what he did with Mid Atlantic (which was never anything but mainline with "express" painted on the airplanes).

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."