Commutair News

[NoName]

whats the latest at commutair? i havent heard much out of them since they started their b1900 in and out of cle. so hows it going over there?

 

[Smacktard]

The ESOP lawsuit started today. I think most are waiting to see how that goes. Classes have been going every month and they continue to interview. There seems to be a bit of movement, even after the exodus back to XJT.

 

[LaxPilot]

Alot of the new F.O.'s are leaving for other companies. The leader of the mutual intrest commitee "retired". (goes to show you that was devised to counter ALPA). And people forget, there are two other lawsuit's are in the works, a wrongful death and a discriminaion.

 

[NEDude]

I believe the wrongful death lawsuit was settled over a year ago. I think Raytheon was a co-defendant in that one as well.

Personally I think we are sort of "treading water". There isn't much to report as far as rumors of growth, new airplanes etc. I think we are at a standstill until the ESOP trial is over and the appeals process has run its course. Until then I don't see a lot of changes.

 

[shamrock]

Was the wrongful death the old guy that fell off the side of the stairs? That was a while back.

Was the discrimination suit filed by a former female crewmember who has a habit of suing everyone she works/worked for? "Look everyone, it's Poke-man!" (You had to be there)

 

[deskjobssuck]

The discrimination suit was filed by someone who might or might not have been an, um, piloting skills challenged individual who might or might not have commuted out of HPN.
I wanted to throw myself into a prop when I heard he had filed it. Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[shamrock]

S.B.?

 

[CA1900]

This seems appropriate:

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[shamrock]

This seems appropriate:

http://funwavs.com/wavfile.php?quote=2289&sound=48

I assume you are saturating the airwaves, or at least company frequency, with that, right?

So am I close with my guess on who filed the discrimination suit? I can still remember a certain personality challenged Captain, who may or may not have commuted out of Chicago, who was stuck flying with this person for most of a month. I really didn't care for this Captain because, well, he was an assh0le, but listening to him talk about this person's habit of flying up and left when the Flight Director said down and right was kind of funny.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Well if it's Mr/Mrs/Mrs So-And-So that is suing... Let's just say that it was justifiable termination. I had a discussion with this individual over a year after they started at Commutair wherein the individual that may or may not be suing the company for 'discrimination' didn't know what I was talking about when I mentioned the concept of "seat blocking" in the weight and balance computation. Spent 10 mins explaining the concept to the person, actually, and at the end of the dissertation on my part I was convinced they STILL didn't know what I was talking about.

WTFO?? After new-hire class, probably 800+ legs and then going through their 12-check they didn't realize that you keep the first and last rows empty when there are 14 or fewer pax?? PuhLEEZE!!!! The very definition of "I'm in the right seat collecting a paycheck and I am worthless for anything else".

Can't imagine that the individual in question was any better as a Captain, and from what I've heard, they weren't. WORSE, in fact.

 

[chperplt]

seat blocking"

Not to change the subject of your thread... BUT

What W&B benefit did you have by blocking those rows off??

 

[I.P. Freley]

I presumed that this was standard 1900 practice, but... I guess not!

With 14 or fewer pax, they were all supposed to be seated in rows 2-8 ONLY. I guess this made the CA way of doing W&B easier, done as it was with a bound book that started with the total pax count and then you used the fuel load and the cargo load to determine the CG.

At least this is how I remember it... It's been 2-1/2 years since I've done a W&B in the Beech!

 

[chperplt]

Thanks!!

We just added it all up and spun the CG gizmo...

 

[shamrock]

Guess Commutair guys just aren't as sharp as Colgan. No math involved at Commutair. As long as you can count heads or empty seats, you're OK.

I had some trouble with that though so I had to go fly an RJ. Now the FMS does the math, the FA does the counting.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Yep, that must be it, Commutair guys aren't very sharp.

Seriously, we had no wheel. Just the book.

 

[NEDude]

CommutAirs' W&B is unique. I was at another BE-1900 operator for a very short time (furloughed ater 9/11) and theirs was very different. The book is very easy, takes 20 seconds to look up the numbers and write it down, if that. The cost for such a simple system is blocking rows 1 and 9 unless there is more 14 on board.

 

[AVI1900D]

So is all the growth comming before the Saabs or after?

 

[elguapo9]

I have an interview with CA on Tuesday the 24th. Take that however you want.

 

[Quillpig]

It isn't growth. CommutAir is hiring to replace the FOs who (1) got recalled by CoEx and (2) left for Air Wisconsin.

QP

 

[Smacktard]

CommutAir is hiring to replace the FOs who (1) got recalled by CoEx and (2) left for Air Wisconsin.

And the few with SWA, Airtran and ATA classes. I guess the lifer jet FOs must be disappointed knowing that 121 turbine PIC is 121 turbine PIC.