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Alpa

Been there, done that, and all I'll say is that ALPA, or any union group, at any given company is only as strong and united as the pilot group wants it to be.

 

[B190Captain]

I didn't know Airways was still flying airplanes with the early 90's paint on it.....

Hell, I have a hard time seeing the USAir on the tail of half your airplanes I see in CLT.

I agree. Seems like Mesa has let those planes (1900's) go to absolute sh*t. Those planes are in horrid condition. Some planes have both old and new liveries on the same plane.

 

[beech1900kid]

Other than the fact that PLB is the company headquarters and their MX base, your position makes perfect sense.

Aside from the MX thing which has already been corrected, explain how having HQ in PLB necessitates a crew base there. There is no strategic reason to RON planes there or have a reserve pilot there who gets Dead headed to ALB whenever he gets an assignment.

New Hire training, MX, and the FBO plans are all in ALB. The reason they continually give for not moving HQ is that the admin people are all up there. Plz....I can get a monkey to make the schedule work and the paychecks out on time.

 

[beech1900kid]

There has been much b$tching on the CA website about how dropping the bonus wasn't negotiated with the pilots, closing ROC isn't really cost effective, etc. The bottom line is that management doesn't have to talk pay cuts over with the pilots, and they obviously felt closing ROC was the way to go. If the pilots don't like the way the airline is run, their only option really is to leave. Welcome to America's workforce.

Good Luck

C'mon dude...what about all the guys that have 100% of their retirements vested in the company, or that are single income families that can't make ends meet back on FO pay? Your advice sounds great in theory but doesn't really work for some.

 

[routeskd]

For those of you who want the facts about the ROC/PLB domicile costs I suggest you actually ask someone who makes these decisions to justify the numbers to you rather than take half-assed guesses at what make sense and what doesn't. The doors of the desicion makers in PLB are open for those that know how to knock and ask questions vs. sitting on some message boards and compalin.

 

[cp13]

4 Big Letters

!!!ALPA!!!

 

[I.P. Freley]

The reason they continually give for not moving HQ is that the admin people are all up there. Plz....I can get a monkey to make the schedule work and the paychecks out on time.

Then by all means, head on down to the pet shoppe and get that monkey. I'm sure the HQ mavens are all about saving a buck.

Either way, what routeskd had to say is dead on. This is a company where you can pick up the phone, call the DO, CP, and/or Pres. and ask them why decisions were made. I'm sure they will have better answers (though possibly not ones you will understand or agree with) than you are going to get by posting rhetorical questions on a msg board.

There is no strategic reason to RON planes there (in PLB) or have a reserve pilot there who gets Dead headed to ALB whenever he gets an assignment.

Insert "ROC" where you put "PLB" and answer the same question (slightly edited by me), since we're being rhetorical...

 

[beech1900kid]

My point is not about the logistics of closing ROC...it's about these shots in the dark by management. They are scraping tooth and nail to get out of a corner that they backed themselves into just like they did when they closed the IAD, PWM, Utica, etc., etc., etc. They are trying anything to stay afloat here and they are feeding the employees a bunch of crap. Like I said originally, what's that smell? Let's call a spade a spade and be straight up, if not to anyone then to the employees.

 

[BSkin]

For those of you who want the facts about the ROC/PLB domicile costs I suggest you actually ask someone who makes these decisions to justify the numbers to you rather than take half-assed guesses at what make sense and what doesn't. The doors of the desicion makers in PLB are open for those that know how to knock and ask questions vs. sitting on some message boards and compalin.

I thought management just lurked these forums!

 

[Obi-Wan]

Well Everyone can sign a paper saying, bring back all benefits or we will all quit in one week. The key point is you need to be united.

 

[elguapo9]

C'mon dude...what about all the guys that have 100% of their retirements vested in the company, or that are single income families that can't make ends meet back on FO pay? Your advice sounds great in theory but doesn't really work for some.

If all of your retirement is vested in a BS ESOP, I'm sorry. You've tied your future to something the company controls, not a good idea. If I were you, I would look into an IRA.

As far as making ends meet on FO pay, how about sucking it up for a year. At almost all major airlines (and Comair) second year FO pay is light years ahead of all captain rates at CA. Add the fact that you will fly more than guarantee, and you will be alright. Take out a home equity loan and make it work somehow. Consider it an investment in your future.

Now, if you are staying at CA because of the QoL arguement (being at home every night, picking your days off, etc), you have a valid point. It will be much different at another airline on the bottom of the list. However, recognize that you are staying at CA for the QoL, and don't complain when they jerk you around.

 

[beech1900kid]

they jerk me around.....

 

[Shed Driver]

T-Gates,

Great avatar, thats the airline I work for in Australia.

 

[AutoBus]

Sounds like things are a little rough at Confused Air, too bad!! Guess it's not like the old days.

 

[SEFlyer]

I agree. Seems like Mesa has let those planes (1900's) go to absolute sh*t. Those planes are in horrid condition. Some planes have both old and new liveries on the same plane.

Don't forget that some have new, old, and Mesa paint schemes all in one. Those are the best.