Commutair and Shuttle America

[avratdwc]

Hey all, just wondering what the dilly is with Commutair and Shuttle America, have not heard to much about them lately. I am also wondering why people have to think about Trans States, at this point and time I will take a position with whoever I can get. I am still waiting on hearing back from ASA. Insight would be appreciated. CYA

 

[CA1900]

Hey all, just wondering what the dilly is with Commutair and Shuttle America, have not heard to much about them lately. I am also wondering why people have to think about Trans States, at this point and time I will take a position with whoever I can get. I am still waiting on hearing back from ASA. Insight would be appreciated. CYA

If you mean rumors that one was going to buy the other, I've heard nothing meaningful about that. I think they were just rumors.

If you mean "how are they doing," I can only speak for Commutair, but it seems like we're (slowly) crawling back up the hill towards profitability. Albany is building extra ramp space to accomodate us, so that's a good sign.

Rumor is that we'll probably do another new-hire class toward the end of this year, but again, that's rumor. Officially, we're still not hiring right now.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Funny, I have worked for all three of the airlines in question.

Commutair- Ask someone else, I haven't been there in over a year.

TransStates- Recalling all of their furloughs for an alleged late-Sept./early-Oct. "class date". They are apparently finding that a lot of the furloughs have moved on to other places and won't be coming back, so they are likely to be interviewing again soon. They are literally in the process of recalling right NOW, I received a call yesterday as a matter of fact.

Shuttle America- Not interviewing right now, but probably will interview in september for a late-Sept./early-Oct. class. If you have a letter of recommendation that pretty much guarantees you an interview at least.

 

[Jack Hass]

hey capt crunch!!

take it easy with what you say, because you dont know anything about IP freely

 

[Capt.SpongeBob]

I know Mr. Freley and have also worked at CA, TSA & SA. I can assure you that it is through no fault of our own ( two furloughs ) that we find ourselves in our current position. In his case he was lucky enough to be hired on at SA as a street captain. I would also like to add that Mr Freley is a very fine pilot, and he's probably "wondering who the hell is this?"

 

[avratdwc]

Well I must say that I appreciate the info given to me by all. And to capt. Crunch, I was wondering where you get off saying what you did. Who do you work for? I will be honest in saying that I dont have a job yet but I am confident I will get one. Why dont you be happy with what you have, if you have anything. In case you are too good to see, there are alot of guys in some very tough places rite now and by you making the comments you do it does not help the cause for everyone. Thanks again guys for all who have helped with some info, it is appreciated. CYA

 

[I.P. Freley]

Flamebait

>>>wow your a winner, hope you make better decissions in the cockpit than you do as to where to send your resume.<<<

Sure, I think I am a winner. Evidence?

1- I can spell, unlike YOU.

2- I can differentiate between the very different situations in which you use "your" and "you're", unlike YOU.

3- I don't feel I have to hide behind a screen name like a little girl and insult total strangers for no apparent reason, unlike YOU.

Not only that, I managed to get a left-seat job flying a turbine-powered airplane for a 121 carrier in the worst job market in twenty years. Why WOULDN'T I be happy?

That aside, you are a truly unbelievable fool if you can't figure out that perhaps, MAYBE, a certain terrorist act perpetrated on us almost exactly a year ago might have had a part in my having to change jobs.

If not, I pity you. I suggest you crawl back under the rock from which you unfortunately managed to make your pointless appearance.

P.S.- Okay, SpongeBob, who ARE you??

 

[CA1900]

Kick his a$$, Sea Bass!

 

[I.P. Freley]

Pissed off? Hardly.

Try MYSTIFIED. Difficult to make sense of someone so clueless.

What a tool... If this is what you do for fun, I recommend trying a new hobby.

 

[328dude]

Capt Crusty, I think it's time to take the breast pump off your head for awhile.

Oh by the way newbie, How quickly you got your ATP . ROFLMAO.

Enjoy the show, showboat.

 

[I.P. Freley]

>>>I dont know what ROFLMAO means, but it should mean no one cares if your a shinning star in aviation and have SO much time before your 23. Especially some one from Danny's Dimploma shop.<<<

Hey, numbnut, try PROOFREADING your posts... If, in fact, the concept of proofreading MEANS anything to you.

For starters, "your a shinning star" contains two mistakes in the space of four words... Three, actually. You must be very proud of yoruself. "Shinning" isn't quite a word, but then again, noone (pay attention to that word, "noone", it will pop up again before I am done) here but you need to be told that.

Secondly, "your" is an incorrect usage in this case, just as in your earlier post. I presume you didn't finish high school or you would know that already. If you DID finish high school, your english teachers need to be run over by a bus and then dynamited for good measure for letting you out of the asylum without learning anything.

Furthermore, "dont" isn't a word. Try "don't".

Also... "no one" should be one word, not two.

Similarly, "some one" is one word, not two.

By the way, what's a "dimploma"? One can only presume that you have shopped there (Danny's Dimploma shop) to explain your graduation from grade school and/or high school, if in fact you achieved either.

By my count, that's six grammatical or spelling errors in the space of two (fractured) sentences. But then again, at 35 words, that only equates to one error per every six words or so, which for you I imagine is a record.

FYI, "ROFLMAO" means "rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off." Which, I should add, everyone with more than six functioning brain cells is doing whilst reading your posts. (by the way, "whilst" isn't a misspelling, you might want to look that one up, if you know how)

Keep it up, stupid. We're waiting.

 

[Jack Hass]

Shut the Fuk up Cpt Crunch....and go back into the cereal box you came out of!

 

[I.P. Freley]

That's the only comeback you have, "Captain"? I'd hoped for, but surely not expected, a better response.

Funny, I wouldn't have thought of "Hooked on Phonics", but then again, I am not a regular user of the product, as you appear to be from your quick mention of same. Too bad none of it had any apparent effect upon your use of grammar or spelling... I hope you got your money back.

So tell me, from a first-person perspective, how does it feel to have gained one's whole knowledge of the English language from a cereal box?

I won't even mention that you have kept up your average of one spelling or grammatical error per six words. Whoops... I did mention it after all, didn't I? Besides, you've actually EXCEEDED it.

-"Hooked on Phonics" is a product and a trademark, and as thus, should be capitalized.

-"I", of course, should ALSO be capitalized.

-It's "didn't", not "didnt".

Your mother must be SO proud of you. A mind is a terrible thing. To waste, that is, at least in your case.

C'mon, I'm waiting for something better out of you. Waiting in vain, but waiting nonetheless.

 

[chperplt]

sh1twater scab

What exactly is a sh!twater scab? Would that be a scab that developed when one is actually in sh!twater? If so, where would one find this "sh!twater" so one can stay away from it?

If sh!twater scab is your way of attacking Mr. Freley, then unfortunately for you, you have miserably failed once again.

By the way, I'm not familiar with Danny's Dimploma shop, but you might want to ask them for a refund as well. A real education is invaluable and something you might want to take a serious look at.

Chperplt

A dumb a@@ with a Bachelors and Masters obtained outside of Danny's Dimploma shop.

 

[I.P. Freley]

For the benefit of First Officer Crunch:

Scab-
1- A worker who refuses membership in a labor union.
2- An employee who works while others are on strike; a strikebreaker.
3- A person hired to replace a striking worker.

I am in a union. Nobody is on strike. I was not hired to replace a striking worker.

Your stunning lack of knowledge of our language makes itself known yet again. I can only presume that you were trying to insult me, but if calling me something I'm not is your best effort, looks like you've failed AGAIN.

Go hijack another thread, why don't you? There are plenty of people still wishing to see you make an a$$ of yourself. I am done expending my mental energies on your sorry case.

 

[328dude]

IP, you the man. LOL

Capt's a student pilot.

 

[I.P. Freley]

I'd already come to the conclusion that crunch-boy was not quite what s/he purported to be... Thank you for the info.

This is the kind of student that I used to let put themselves into a full-on spin, since the frequent cries of "MORE RIGHT RUDDER!!" were consistently unheeded... Then I'd just sit there and say "you'd better do something, QUICK!!"

Did a beautiful job of bringing their thought processes more in line with my own, I'll tell you that!!

 

[Capt.SpongeBob]

Hey Crunch, looks like you were up pretty late last night typing your response. Doesnt your mommy get mad when you stay up past your bed time? Especially on a school night.

 

[aviatrix]

Dont bother!

Looks as if it is a wasted effort on capt crunch.
Grammar and spelling do count in this world and his time will come!

capt crunch....seriously......before you embark on any job search I would highly recommend going back to college and taking a remedial English class. I'm not trying to be cynical, but it's REALLY quite bad! There's just too much competition out there to ignore your education!!!

 

[Menace]

Good stuff!

This is a great thread! I had an enjoyable time reading it. If student pilot crunch really is a pilot (and I have my doubts), then he/she/it has been out of touch with the industry for the past year.

The funniest part of the whole thing is that after IP mocked crunch's spelling and grammer, he/she/it never gets any better at it.

Crunch, if you're reading this (and I know you are), grow up and stop acting like an idiot. You make pilots look bad. Oh yeah, go back to English class too (or in your case, two).

-Menace

 

[Kaman]

Hello,
Since when is it reasonable to refer to someone as a "scab", if they are not a member of a union? Specifically, in a right-to-work state. My mother-in-law is a career postal employee and not a member of the union nor are some of her co-workers. In fact, she is entitled to union representation in any greivance issues. Of course, the union is not going to be as "enthusiastic" in their support. Still doesn't make her a scab.
The use of coercision by union leadership in trade unions is as old as laborers have been organized, AND it's illegal! In my obervation of union activity in US industry, I'm hard-pressed to see what they have really done for the American worker in the past 25 years? Take a look and see where all those high paying (overpaying) manufacturing jobs have gone. One place, off-shore to places like Mexico, China and Indonesia.
ALPA is a "rice bowl" operation thru and thru...If any of you think for one second that their leadership really cares about the pilot profession and devlopment of a logical pilot career path. Well, you are kidding yourselves. If they did it would have been the cornerstone of contract negotiations. However, the crux of most airline pilot group negotiations is comparing what they make against another pilot group's contract. That is sheer lunacy and no wonder the majors are going broke. They would be going broke even with 9-11 never occuring. Simply look back at the history of airline union negotiations. One word...GREED
Another intersting paradox is the demographics of ALPA and other pilot union groups (UPS, AA). About 1/2 are former military, most of hte remainder are college educated. What political party do these folks traditionally vote? You guessed correctly, Republican.
Look, I'm a pilot, I'm college educated and I served in the military (enlisted). And I flew as a flight crewmember in the military. Pilots are and always have been the biggest group of self-centered whining prima donnas that they were when Orville and Wilbur flipped for who gets to go first!
I get so fed up with the lifestyle crap, days off, commuting ot and from work issues that pilots whine about. Well, tell you what. If you don't freaking like it, and simply want to chase the panacea of airline pilot wealth, time-off, etc...GET A REAL JOB! What the heck do you think that every other college educated person does when they commence their first job? They WORK on salary!!!! What a concept! You mean, I work 50-60 hours per week and have to go above and beyond to be recognized and promoted? Face it, being a pilot is over glorified blue collar work. And the attitudes that come with it are rife amongst the rank and file. As long as that mindset continues, the pilot profession is going to implode upon itself as management snickers at it's whining cry babies that are a necessary evil.
Don't get me wrong I HIGHLY respect the experience, training and skill of professional pilots. I have since I was knee high to a grasshopper and watched my Dad in his USAF career as a pilot. We've simply lost sight of the big picture and even more amazingly in the post 9-11 world it appeas to me that little changed for very long.

Fed up,

Ex-Navy rotorhead

 

[DarnNearaJet]

But you're not bitter, Kaman. At least you've got that going for you.

I see you're an airline agent. I detect just a bit of envy in your post about those "self-centered whining prima-donnas." If it weren't for ALPA, most airline pilots would be making something akin to corporate pilot wages. And we (pilots) would have absolutely no protection from the fickle whim of airline managers who tell us to fly broken airplanes illegally, feds who'll violate us for doing so, and politicians who feel we are overpaid.

That's what so many ALPA-bashers fail to realize about our organization. The lobbying it does on the hill on our (pilots -- not agents) behalf.

Ever hear of the Whitlow letter?

I'm sorry you feel this way about pilots and unions. Perhaps your feelings are less about us (pilots -- not agents) and more about yourself.

 

[Kaman]

Hello,
I respectfully disagree to your assertion that my personal feelings have clouded my analysis. I'm not imbittered, jealous or envious. I have flown over 5000 hours as civilian pilot, Naval Aircrewman, jump pilot and soon will be flight instructing full-time. I think if you have read some other threads that are in a similar vein that you can somewhat see what I'm talking about. However, I don't know if I articulated exactly what I was trying to say in the heat of the moment.
I wasn't attacking the organization directly, but I do stand by my statement that the "old school" ALPA is firmly entrenched in maintaing the status qou, which I think is seriously flawed considering the rapid changes to the industry. In point of fact, ALPA has been VERY slow to embrace change, even defying all principles of good business sense. You may recall the old railroad dispute when the fireman were removed from locomotives when they went to diesel as the prime mover. ALPA fought the same fight with the 737, and insisted that it be flown with 3 pilots. United operated their's in this fashion until 1981. To what good end did that serve is beyond me. Sure, it saved pilots from furlough, but it defied logic from both an operational sense and from a business sense.
Another frequently identified misconception that raised my eyebrow last night was the definition of a "Scab". It is only appropriate when describing someone that crosses a picket line or works "struck work". It is not appropriate when describing a non-union member working in a union shop. It's the law of the land, and the person that asserted that is incorrect, at least in a "Right-to-Work" state.
Until there is real change from the leadership, you are going to continue to have these arguments, debates, strikes, etc... It is all about GREED and not me. I have nothing to prove, and bear no ill will. It is simply a fact of our modern society. Pilots come from all walks of life and are a microcosim of what is going on everywhere else. And I'd also like to add that as a group of people that on the outside appear to have a common bond in flight are pretty **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**ed divided amongst themselves.

Regards,

ex-Navy rotorhead