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There will be no paycuts. The memo is just a pre-emptive way of saying "don't ask for a raise, don't expect a QOL increase, and remember that you are lucky that we bestow on you the gift of a job".
The memo basically said that Colgan Air, Inc. lost $2.5M last year, which isn't bad given the radical expansion and the high cost of fuel. Keep in mind that Colgan Air, Inc. is just one unit in the Colgan empire. If it loses $2.5M and Capital Aviation and the rest make $6M, that's still a lot of Escalades.
The memo basically said that Colgan Air, Inc. lost $2.5M last year, which isn't bad given the radical expansion and the high cost of fuel. Keep in mind that Colgan Air, Inc. is just one unit in the Colgan empire. If it loses $2.5M and Capital Aviation and the rest make $6M, that's still a lot of Escalades.
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It's funny when moderators even jump in on it!
Especially one that worked there back in the glory days of no part 121, no sims, no work rules, no training program, freaken wild west man. Someplace, somewhere, some aged ex or current colgan pilots are sitting in a room, smoking pot, listening to Niel Young ......re-living the glory days.
Especially one that worked there back in the glory days of no part 121, no sims, no work rules, no training program, freaken wild west man. Someplace, somewhere, some aged ex or current colgan pilots are sitting in a room, smoking pot, listening to Niel Young ......re-living the glory days.
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UAL78 said:
The absolute classic... Are you sure about that??
I seem to remember a gem of a memo that came out post 9/11. It was titled "The way you should be calling your times" or something similar. The crux of the memo was the company thought people were lying about out and in times and had to be reminded that the clock didn't start ticking until the engine was spinning.
In the span of about 7 days, our on time went from the low 90s to about 40%. A second memo was sent out telling us that first memo was sent in error and that Ladon would not be sending out memos in the future...
Oh.. I can't forget the classic memo during hurricane season... A failure to plan on your part during a storm does not equate to an emergency on the companies part. Leave early and be ready to work.
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Paris said:
No one knows the true answer to that other than the bean counters at CAL. However, I think it's quite obvious it's more releated to them feeling a need to diversify their feed than it is to cost savings. Quite frankly, I think the process will end up costing them a little money no matter how cheap the labor group they find is. Having 50% of your departures controlled by one company, which isn't yours, is extremely dangerous.
Having a diversified feed portfolio became an obvious necessity after the Comair strike. The did what they could, CommuteAir, Skywest and Colgan... but this is the first opportunity they've had to add some jet feed.
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CJC Memos
OK, I have the original on my computer but it's stored as a bitmap image and I can't see how to get it transferred over here. It was handwritten by The Senator himself and goes like this:
Noel (the Chief Pilot at the time)
This is a memo that I hate to write but I must- For Gods sake please talk to the commuter pilots about passing gas in the cockpit of the Commuter- They (some of them) seem to think this is a joke.
It is not a joke- It is not funny and if I am ever on one of these airplanes and this is done on purpose I will fire the man on the spot.
C.J.C.
Then there was another about boogers (yes, boogers) in the cockpit. One of the then very senior captains didn't believe in kleenex. Then there was the year that Chuck gave out Christmas turkeys (er, I mean memos authorizing you to get a turkey at Giant) in lieu of bonusses. They were out of the size allowed by the time I got there, so no turkey. That only lasted a year because another captain anonymously sent Chuck a chicken. The family in general does NOT have a sense of humor. An item to remember when dealing with them.
Those were some interesting times. For the record though, I HATE Neil Young music.
OK, I have the original on my computer but it's stored as a bitmap image and I can't see how to get it transferred over here. It was handwritten by The Senator himself and goes like this:
Noel (the Chief Pilot at the time)
This is a memo that I hate to write but I must- For Gods sake please talk to the commuter pilots about passing gas in the cockpit of the Commuter- They (some of them) seem to think this is a joke.
It is not a joke- It is not funny and if I am ever on one of these airplanes and this is done on purpose I will fire the man on the spot.
C.J.C.
Then there was another about boogers (yes, boogers) in the cockpit. One of the then very senior captains didn't believe in kleenex. Then there was the year that Chuck gave out Christmas turkeys (er, I mean memos authorizing you to get a turkey at Giant) in lieu of bonusses. They were out of the size allowed by the time I got there, so no turkey. That only lasted a year because another captain anonymously sent Chuck a chicken. The family in general does NOT have a sense of humor. An item to remember when dealing with them.
Those were some interesting times. For the record though, I HATE Neil Young music.
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A fart memo!!!? thats hilarious. Well i read the memo. I get the feeling that pay concessions or freezes are going to be implemented. That sucks when considering i make less than the average full time dishwasher when it is all said and done.
the thing i don't understand is the part about late departures and arrivals. I can't count even one time that the late departure was due to the crew being late or messing up. It is ALWAYS, maintenance, dispatch and ops in the hubs. The out bases are usually on the money.
took a delay the other day when we waited 1 hour and 45 minutes for a gpu that was required for a maintenance inspection. the other day took a delay because our release was over 30 minutes late and it was blamed on maintenance and there was no maintenance at the field. too funny.
the thing i don't understand is the part about late departures and arrivals. I can't count even one time that the late departure was due to the crew being late or messing up. It is ALWAYS, maintenance, dispatch and ops in the hubs. The out bases are usually on the money.
took a delay the other day when we waited 1 hour and 45 minutes for a gpu that was required for a maintenance inspection. the other day took a delay because our release was over 30 minutes late and it was blamed on maintenance and there was no maintenance at the field. too funny.
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Colgan pipeline
From just a bit over a month ago, Colgan started hiring Inependence maintenance coordinator. Then they started bringing over Indepence's maintenance. They are forcing out their existing maintenance to make room. As of yesterday, they posted a 2 million profit loss and stated that they will be asking people to take pay cuts. How could an F.O. on welfare take a pay cut?
From just a bit over a month ago, Colgan started hiring Inependence maintenance coordinator. Then they started bringing over Indepence's maintenance. They are forcing out their existing maintenance to make room. As of yesterday, they posted a 2 million profit loss and stated that they will be asking people to take pay cuts. How could an F.O. on welfare take a pay cut?
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they hired independence people because it is so expensive to live in northern Va and DC. Once the mechs get some time under the belt and get stressed dealing with the companies backwards way of doing things with MX they move on and try to make more money. The independence guys probably live in the area and since they werent going to have jobs they came on over. I am sure they wont stay. nobody stays at colgan. it is a place for the interim. and the memo said nothing of pay cuts. after 9/11 they didnt have paycuts. every year they send out the letter as a review of the year. but you can bet they will be auditing pay sheets more. some guys think they can put hot reserve down everytime they have to sit someplace between flights. you will see more scrutiny on pay sheets and they also hate dead heading and tdy so now that they are a bit fat on pilots and captains you wont see so much open time and TDY. they are also forcing FA's to bid for bases where they are needed as opposed to a dozen sitting at a base and not working.
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