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Sunday, June 20, 2004

Comair's fate hinges on Delta
Options weighed for carrier if parent goes bust

By James Pilcher
Enquirer staff writer

As Delta Air Lines contemplates whether to seek bankruptcy, Comair keeps churning out money.

The Erlanger-based regional carrier's success, contrasted with Delta's recent miserable financial performance, raises the question of what would happen if its parent were to declare Chapter 11.

A bankruptcy could affect the more than 3,500 Comair employees at the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport, Delta's second-largest hub.

Officials at Delta and Comair won't discuss the bankruptcy question. Comair refers questions to Delta, where officials say bankruptcy remains the last option.

But experts and analysts see three likely scenarios in the event of a Delta bankruptcy:

• Comair is included in the restructuring under the Chapter 11 umbrella, since it is part of the entire Delta Air Lines Inc. corporation. Experts say this is the most likely outcome in the event of a Delta bankruptcy, which raises the possibility of Comair restructuring its labor contracts, most notably with its pilots - who went on a three-month strike in 2001.

• Comair is spun off either as a privately held or publicly traded company. It essentially would be sold to raise cash for Delta.

• Delta retains Comair and its other subsidiaries but does not include the smaller airlines in the restructuring. That could lead to some interesting situations, such as Delta pension fund managers looking to raid Comair's assets.

Comair and Delta officials also would not comment on Comair's financial information. All large airlines are required by federal regulation to submit financial data to the U.S. Department of Transportation, but such filings are not audited, unlike those sent to the Securities and Exchange Commission.

SEC filings also don't break out financials for subsidiaries (Delta bought Comair, which was previously a public company, for $1.91 billion in January 2000).

In 2003, Comair earned more than $88 million in net profit on more than $1 billion in revenue, according to Transportation Department statistics. In the first quarter of this year, its net income was $8.4 million on more than $250 million in revenue.

In an interview Thursday, Delta's senior vice president and chief of operations, Joe Kolshak, declined to speculate on what would happen to subsidiaries such as Comair or sister airline ASA, also owned by Delta, under a bankruptcy.

"All I can say is ... without concessions from the (Delta) pilot group, Chapter 11 remains an option," said Kolshak, who also oversees the airline's regional carriers. "But it would be absolutely our last possible option."

Bankruptcy unlikely

Analysts and experts say that a Delta bankruptcy is unlikely because they believe its pilots will eventually acquiesce to the company's demands for deep concessions at the very last possible minute before Chapter 11 is needed. They cite the situation at American Airlines, where unions agreed to cuts just days before American was to declare bankruptcy.

Regional airline analyst Robert Ashcroft of UBS Investment Research, along with airline consultant Michael Boyd, president of the Colorado-based The Boyd Group, say that while unlikely, a Delta bankruptcy would include Comair, despite its apparent profitability.

"There is precedent to this, and usually when a corporation undergoes bankruptcy reorganization, the subsidiaries are included in that," said Ashcroft, pointing to the recent example of US Airways and its three wholly owned regional airlines: Piedmont, Allegheny and PSA.

All three were included in US Airways' restructuring last year.

"And one might raise the question that if ASA and Comair are profitable, why would they go into bankruptcy," Ashcroft continued. "Profits at those regionals and other wholly-owned subsidiaries are completely notional. Delta is free to arrange those contracts and books any way it wants, and can make them look as profitable or unprofitable as it likes."

More leverage

If Delta were to include Comair in any restructuring, it would give management at both airlines much more leverage in renegotiating or even possibly voiding existing contracts.

Comair's pilots, who went on an 89-day strike in 2001, are now considered the highest-paid in the regional industry, as are the flight attendants - the airline's mechanics also are unionized.

The labor rates have made Comair's costs some of the highest in the regional industry. In the first quarter of this year, Comair recorded $262.9 million in operating expenses, third-highest among major regionals. The rate of 11.58 cents to fly one passenger one mile, however, is one of the lowest.

Under bankruptcy protection, the company could ask to renegotiate the deals, using the threat of filing what is called a Section 11-13, or asking the bankruptcy judge to void existing contracts and impose wages that are more in line with the rest of the market.

J.C. Lawson III, chairman of Comair's branch of the Air Line Pilots Association, would not comment on potential bankruptcy and its possible impact on labor contracts. Comair has already asked its pilot and flight attendant unions for concessions to cut costs to receive new jets from Delta. The pilots said no, and Comair will not get any new jets next year, the first time in the 26-year history of the company that it has not added to its fleet.

Bankruptcy "definitely would give the management more leverage, and I always tell unions that it's better to negotiate a deal outside of bankruptcy than be under Chapter 11," said Boyd, who consults with unions as well as airlines, and who has done customer service training for Comair.

This was the situation at US Airways, which went to unions at all three subsidiaries for concessions. PSA got the most cuts from its pilots. Now, PSA is the only one of US Airways' three wholly owned subsidiaries flying regional jets. The other two - Piedmont and Allegheny - are now being merged and will handle smaller routes and fly turboprops, as opposed to the more lucrative regional jets.

"They essentially had a bakeoff, which could be the situation at Delta," Ashcroft said. "And PSA got the most cuts and came out the winner."

Problems loom

The other two scenarios have their attractions, the experts say, but also pose more potential problems.

If Comair were spun off through an initial public offering or sold outright to private investors to raise cash for Delta, the parent could have a hard time selling. That's because impending bankruptcy or current bankruptcy would make the contracts with Delta all but meaningless, since they would be restructured as well.

At this stage, however, Ashcroft believes that any spin-off is unlikely until Delta's financial situation stabilizes.

And keeping Comair and its sister ASA out of bankruptcy could simplify matters - or make it even more complicated. Since Comair is profitable on paper, creditors could line up to take a slice of those profits (including Delta employees' own pension funds). In addition to the airline, Comair technically owns Delta AirElite, Delta's high-end charter service, as well as a well-established flight school in Florida - Delta Connection Aviation Academy.

In addition, Delta creditors are likely to want ASA and Comair creditors to share in the financial pain, Ashcroft said.

Finally, Delta also could be forced to renege on its contracts that set the rates it pays regionals such as Comair to carry Delta passengers.

"Creditors of mainline Delta are going to want to have access to as many of Delta's assets as possible," Ashcroft said. "That includes Comair and ASA, and that's why both are likely to be included as bankrupt entities as part of any Delta restructuring."

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jarhead said:
• Comair is included in the restructuring under the Chapter 11 umbrella, since it is part of the entire Delta Air Lines Inc. corporation. Experts say this is the most likely outcome in the event of a Delta bankruptcy, which raises the possibility of Comair restructuring its labor contracts, most notably with its pilots - who went on a three-month strike in 2001.

• Comair is spun off either as a privately held or publicly traded company. It essentially would be sold to raise cash for Delta.

• Delta retains Comair and its other subsidiaries but does not include the smaller airlines in the restructuring. That could lead to some interesting situations, such as Delta pension fund managers looking to raid Comair's assets.
It's beginning to look like it's much more palatable for DL to go 11. Helps them get rid of the contract for the CL65's at Skywest. Number 1 sounds like the most viable, as they would cancel their contracts with the non-owned regionals, and restructure it's labor contracts.
 
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jarhead said:
If Comair were spun off through an initial public offering or sold outright to private investors to raise cash for Delta, the parent could have a hard time selling. That's because impending bankruptcy or current bankruptcy would make the contracts with Delta all but meaningless, since they would be restructured as well.

At this stage, however, Ashcroft believes that any spin-off is unlikely until Delta's financial situation stabilizes.
Apparently, selling off Comair to bring in money for mainline DL isn't such a great option after all. Seems like not long ago, the General and others were swearing CMR could be sold-off before a BK would happen. In fact, some even said the shareholders would sue if DL didn't sell-off CMR. What a joke!!
 
Not trying to sitr up the hornet's nest here, an honest question...


Why would they want to cancel the contracts of these other carriers...?....
 
The fact is the Delta pilots won't let the company go into Ch 11. If they do, the 40% the company wants will be a pittance in comparison to what they will actually lose. Not to mention the growing trend of bankruptcy judges willingness to allow companies to use pension funds for everything except the pension. That cushy retirement might go bye-bye.

The topic of the article is pretty ridiculous. Of course Comair's fate, as well as ASA, the Delta Connection Academy, Delta Air Elite, and anything else on the balance sheet hinges on Delta, the parent company.
 
h25b said:
Not trying to sitr up the hornet's nest here, an honest question...


Why would they want to cancel the contracts of these other carriers...?....
Basically to reduce the wages by paying lower than they do now. It's all relative to the cash out vs cash in. If DAL has less money going into pilots and FA pockets, more cash goes into mother Delta's pocket.

Of course, only a judge could allow that to happen via the BK court.
 
h25b

h25b said:
Not trying to sitr up the hornet's nest here, an honest question...


Why would they want to cancel the contracts of these other carriers...?....
I have a little different take on that. In house flying is probably more synergistic when all else is equal. Many duplications can be eliminated, thus reducing costs even further. This will become more evident when and if DL files for 11. If possible they may even seek to combine both regionals to reduce costs even further if they can show the bankruptcy judge it makes sense. They will probably not take the options on the rest of the CRJ's, and instead cancel their contract with Skywest and assume all their CRJ's within ASA/Comair. If DL then becomes healthy, they could spin the umbrella regional off with an IPO or sell it outright.
 
lowecur said:
If possible they may even seek to combine both regionals to reduce costs even further if they can show the bankruptcy judge it makes sense. .

If that were to take place, which pay scale would the previously separate contracts for pilots, F/A's and MX would be operating under in this newly 'merged' entity?
 
1. "In 2003, Comair earned more than $88 million in net profit on more than $1 billion in revenue, according to Transportation Department statistics. In the first quarter of this year, its net income was $8.4 million on more than $250 million in revenue."

2. "And one might raise the question that if ASA and Comair are profitable, why would they go into bankruptcy," Ashcroft continued. "Profits at those regionals and other wholly-owned subsidiaries are completely notional. Delta is free to arrange those contracts and books any way it wants, and can make them look as profitable or unprofitable as it likes."

3. "which raises the possibility of Comair restructuring its labor contracts, most notably with its pilots - who went on a three-month strike in 2001."

#2 above brings up a good poinit - profit is actually an OPINION depending upon how one allocates cost. We all know Delta spent $billions on RJs under Fred Reid - not sure how much Comair or ASA contributed. We all know that Delta pays for reservations/distribution, airport handling, marketing, and debt load coverage (Delta covers the interest expense on the RJ debt that Comair/ASA would have to pay on their own). Comair/ASA don't cover every expense - that was confirmed by Delta's former CFO Michelle Burns - she said Delta covered all of the fixed costs for its regionals....

Is this incorrect? Do you have any actual proof about the $88 million profit at Comair? Can someone find the financial statements that describe all of the costs attributed to Comair that Delta does NOT cover? Perhaps Comair and ASA pay for their training at Flight Safety in ATL or CVG. I'd like to see more detail because it is irresponsible to quote the $88 million figure if supportive financials aren't provided...
 
Heavy Set said:
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#2 above brings up a good poinit - profit is actually an OPINION depending upon how one allocates cost. We all know Delta spent $billions on RJs under Fred Reid - not sure how much Comair or ASA contributed. We all know that Delta pays for reservations/distribution, airport handling, marketing, and debt load coverage (Delta covers the interest expense on the RJ debt that Comair/ASA would have to pay on their own). Comair/ASA don't cover every expense - that was confirmed by Delta's former CFO Michelle Burns - she said Delta covered all of the fixed costs for its regionals....

Is this incorrect? Do you have any actual proof about the $88 million profit at Comair? Can someone find the financial statements that describe all of the costs attributed to Comair that Delta does NOT cover? Perhaps Comair and ASA pay for their training at Flight Safety in ATL or CVG. I'd like to see more detail because it is irresponsible to quote the $88 million figure if supportive financials aren't provided...

The article posted was pasted verbatem out of today's cincinnati newspaper. You would have to direct your request for "proof" to the newspaper.
 

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