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JonnyKnoxville

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I am no lawyer but doesn't this sound like a settlement due to ALPA's agreement to TALK about scope within the a specific airline system? What good does that do? What am I missing here?


AIR LINE PILOTS ASSOCIATION, INTERNATIONAL
100TH REGULAR EXECUTIVE BOARD MEETING
October 23-24, 2007


SUBJECT
Amendment to Administrative Manual, Section 40 - Collective Bargaining

SOURCE
Executive Council (09/07, AI #46)

RESOLUTION OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD
WHEREAS the Executive Council designated a special committee of its members to engage in discussions with the ALPA member plaintiffs in the Ford/Cooksey litigation to determine if there was a basis for settlement, and

WHEREAS the Executive Council special committee and Ford/Cooksey plaintiffs have reached a tentative agreement to settle the litigation, and

WHEREAS the proposed settlement embodies adoption of certain amendments to Association collective bargaining policies, addressing “scope” negotiations, which the Executive Council deems consistent with advancing the interests of our members in a coordinated and cooperative manner, and with other provisions of ALPA Policy that address these subjects, and

WHEREAS the proposed settlement also embodies provisions for partial payment of litigation costs and dismissal of litigation, and

WHEREAS the Executive Council approved the terms of the proposed settlement relating to payment of litigation costs and dismissal, contingent upon approval of the policy amendments by the Executive Board as embodied in the proposed settlement and recommended by the Executive Council,

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Administrative Manual, Section 40, Part 1, Collective Bargaining Committee, be amended by adding new paragraph I, as follows:

I. The President shall appoint a subcommittee of the Collective Bargaining Committee dedicated to scope within extended airline families (the “Scope Subcommittee”), subject to Executive Council approval of appointments.

1.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]The Scope Subcommittee is charged with pursuing the following general goals:

a. Increasing Association knowledge on the function and operation of scope provisions.

b. Enhancing cooperating among ALPA pilot groups within each system of mainline and express carriers in formulation of scope proposals for protection and allocation of flying within that system.

2.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]In pursuing its assigned general goals, the Scope Subcommittee shall:

a. Comprehensively review and analyze (in conjunction with appropriate Association resources) existing scope clauses of both ALPA and non-ALPA carriers in terms of whether they advance scope goals with respect to the preservation and allocation of flying within extended airline systems.

b. Prepare guidelines with respect to standards and principles concerning scope negotiations, including but not limited to: (i) enhancing career protections and (ii) defending against use of alter egos. Further, the Scope Subcommittee may develop independent approaches to addressing scope language or concepts without necessarily being limited to existing scope language or concepts.

c.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Track industry changes in scope clauses.

d.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Develop contract models for scope clauses.

e.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Consult with Negotiating Committees of ALPA pilot groups within the extended system prior to commencement of negotiations, as provided in subsection 3 below.

f.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Communicate with non-ALPA pilot groups within the airline family on scope issues.

g.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Be available to consult with Negotiating Committees during negotiations concerning scope, and receive updates on status of scope negotiations as provided in subsection 3 below.

h.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Report regularly to the Executive Council, Executive Board and Board of Directors and recommend changes to ALPA policies as it deems necessary.

3.[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]Prior to commencement of any bargaining for any ALPA pilot group within a mainline/express system, the applicable Negotiating Committee will meet with the Negotiating Committees of other ALPA pilot groups in the mainline/express system to review opening scope proposals and how they advance ALPA’s scope goals and guidelines. The committees will work with each other to develop a consensus on proposals; if, however, they are unable to do so, subsection 3a below will apply.

a. Following consultation as specified above, and prior to submission of the scope proposal to the airline, the applicable Negotiating Committee will report to the Scope Subcommittee that ALPA pilot groups have consulted with one another and have or have not reached consensus that the planned scope proposal meets ALPA’s scope goals and guidelines; if the latter, Negotiating Committees of other ALPA pilot groups in the system can submit statements of agreement or disagreement to the Scope Subcommittee, which can recommend changes following consultation with the Negotiating Committees involved.

b. The applicable Negotiating Committee and ALPA pilot groups within the mainline/express system will develop in conjunction with the opening proposal agreed reporting benchmarks with respect to developments in on-going scope negotiations which will require that the Negotiating Committee provide updates on the status of scope negotiations to the Scope Subcommittee. In the absence of consensual agreements concerning benchmarks, the Scope Subcommittee will determine reporting benchmarks.

4. During the period that final approval of a collective bargaining agreement is subject to Presidential review under the Constitution and By-Laws, MEC designated representatives of all ALPA pilot groups within the mainline/express system may submit comments prior to the Presidential signature concerning conformity of negotiated scope provisions with recommendations of the Scope Subcommittee and Association policy.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that approval of the foregoing amendments to ALPA policy be contingent upon final approval of the settlement in the Ford/Cooksey litigation and that such amendments become effective only upon such final approval.
 
RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com


[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]ALPA VOTES TO ACCEPT SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT[/FONT]​
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]The RJDC is pleased to announce that ALPA's Executive Council and Executive Board has voted to endorse an agreement that provides for important and unprecedented additions to ALPA's bargaining procedures and resolves the litigations brought by the ASA and Comair pilots.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]The agreement calls for significant additions to ALPA's internal policies and practices, including:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif](1) Mandatory pre-bargaining disclosure between mainline/express pilot groups.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif](2) The ability of mainline/express negotiating committees to consult with each other on proposed scope bargaining plans.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif](3) Review of scope goals and bargaining proposal by a special subcommittee of the national bargaining committee.
[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]The RJDC credits two factors above all that made this agreement possible. First is the determination of the ASA and Comair pilots to see their union enact reforms that reflect changes in the airline industry. The second factor is the willingness of ALPA's new administration to take a fresh look at the six year dispute and respond constructively to the concerns of its members.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]In light of recent progress made by the parties, the September 21st hearing date was adjourned and the parties will make a report to the Court on October 30 and expect by then to have completed much of the detailed language that will make up the formal settlement agreement. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]Sincerely,[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]Your RJDC Leadership[/FONT]
 
I heard Ford settled with no damages and no compensation for legal costs. Those lawyer bills must be phenomenal. But at least he's secured his place in Flying The Line, Volume III.
 
Why would they go this far in a lawsuit to settle on such a meaningless point?

Because they had a loser of a case. The RJDC took a huge hit in the pocket book on this and got virtually nothing in return.
 
Why would they go this far in a lawsuit to settle on such a meaningless point?

Ford and the RJDC had to save face. They threw in the towel when they realized their litigation was going no where and settled for nothing more than a committee to study scope and its impact.
 
Ahhh, what a glorious day. The RJDC nimrods had to give up on their silly little lawsuit because it had no basis in the law. And the best part? If they had any political acumen whatsoever, they could have achieved the same results of the settlement years ago without having to waste so much time and money.
 
I heard Ford settled with no damages and no compensation for legal costs. Those lawyer bills must be phenomenal. But at least he's secured his place in Flying The Line, Volume III.

Not true....

So he got money? How much?

***Crickets chirping...***

Do tell us, how much money did they get, and who gets it? Did it cover legal fees? Were there punitive damages? Call your insider and find out. I already did. (Keep in mind I rarely ask a question I don't already know the answer to).
 
I heard Ford settled with no damages and no compensation for legal costs. Those lawyer bills must be phenomenal. But at least he's secured his place in Flying The Line, Volume III.

Is there going to be a Flying the Line Vol. III? I wish that guy would write one on what happened after 9/11 to show people how we have been screwed by yet another anti-union administration.
 
Flying the Line Volume III will be a 3 page pamphlet of bullet-points.

Now if someone wrote a book about what ALPA did WRONG over the last decade, it would rival War and Peace in length.
 
Flying the Line Volume III will be a 3 page pamphlet of bullet-points.

Now if someone wrote a book about what ALPA did WRONG over the last decade, it would rival War and Peace in length.

Flying the Line, Volumes I and II, were objective accounts of the history of the Association, warts and all. If there is a Volume III (George Hopkins is still around and doing just fine, and he attended the BOD meeting last year as a guest), then I'm sure it will be just as objective as the first two. ALPA has done a lot right, and plenty wrong, in the last decade. Those that focus on the wrong aren't being objective and are refusing to look at all of the good that the Association has accomplished.
 
PCL_: Did the book address those who bought their job? Why don't you STFU and climb back under your scab employing Citrus rock.
 
you are still a "pay GIA for a job" scumbag no matter what. You are probably a hit with the Eastern scabs in the Citrus program.
Remember, you do have to look at yourself in the mirror one day!! Can't wait to hear how you descrbe your career to your son, "well JR, your father wrote a check..."
 
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Why would they go this far in a lawsuit to settle on such a meaningless point?

I honestly don't know why the RJDC does anything. People like Joe Merchant run around and criticize everything ALPA does but they have nothing better to offer.
As far as I can tell, the RJDC is just a bunch of malcontents who do as much or more harm to ALPA than management. Who really thought they would get anything that mattered?

-Big Fat Whatever
 

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