Comair/major airline discussion

[eddie]

Re: You might be a regional airline pilot if

Two-9-9-TwoSet -

BRAVO!

That was a great post!

Merry Christmas

 

[kilomike]

I will probably get into hot water for this one but the DOT definition for major is over $1 billion for a major airline. True. But the passenger's perception of major airline is large aircraft flying longer haul segments. I think a more accurate term for Delta, UAL, etc. would be "global airline" since they have international routes crossing oceans. Then the breakdown would go to "major" in terms of revenue 1B+ such as Comair, etc. A better term might be "major domestic carrier" since they do not fly routes that cross oceans. Then the usual breakdown of national, regional, etc. applies for the smaller carriers. Just a thought.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all! As soon as I get my check on the 21st I'll send a donation.

Kilomike

 

[Wiggums]

Hey TwoSet -

You forgot this one. If the FO has to show passengers how to work the belts at the beginning of the flight, and dispose of the sick-sacs at the end of the flight, you're working for a regional airline.

 

[skydiverdriver]

Express anything? I guess Delta Express is a regional too, as well as Delta Shuttle. I don't think any of this really matters, but it does underscore the great job the media and our management has done to allow lower paid alter-ego airlines to exist. The elimination of this situation should be the number one goal of every pilot who flies for an "airline."

PS, I don't appreciate the webmaster starting a new thread making it look like I started a discussion with this statement. I was answering another persons question, and now it looks like I was trying to start something. Thank you.

 

[MetroSheriff]

SDD,

Although I often agree with your sentiments, we would part on this issue.

Comair is a major that is hiring and purchasing new aircraft.

While the regional moniker is not accurate for many carriers. I think we all know what qualifies as a major in the eyes of the pilots. It would seem that this inflammatory remark was an effort to make a statement while disregarding the well-known "de-facto" definition of "major" airline. You seemed to be starting this line of posting, all be it, not in a new thread.

 

[ifly4food]

PS, I don't appreciate the webmaster starting a new thread making it look like I started a discussion with this statement. I was answering another persons question, and now it looks like I was trying to start something. Thank you.

I apologize if you were irrritated by my moving it here. The original thread had wandered way off topic, and I felt it would be better to start a new discussion of this issue than delete it.
See the note at the top of the first page.
Ifly4food
moderator

 

[RueterF16]

Lower paid alter egos

I guess you don't like the fact that lower paid airline pilots are still working, while some of the higher paid ones aren't. It would be great if we could all make a quarter mil a year to do almost nothing, but it's not economically possible...
Sorry

 

[Ty Webb]

If it walks like a duck . . . . . .

I have nothing but respect for my fellow pilots- at a regional, at a national, at a major, at a fractional- whatever.

What I object to is someone saying that a Comair Pilot job is a Major Airline Pilot job. It's not.

Sure, one of the requirements of being a major is having more than $1 Bil in sales, but from a pilot's perspective- if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and craps like a duck, then it is a D-U-C-K.

Comair is a regional, they operate regional jets and pay a regional pay scale. They are owned by DAL, they did not merge with Delta- they are a regional, period.

 

[RueterF16]

Lower paid alter-ego airlines??

Are you trying to insinuate that airlines that don't pay their pilots a majors salry are not airlines??? I guess you should wish. I know there are those of you out there that feel you should be getting a quarter mil a year to fly 10 days a month. but the reality is, you're not worth that much. Maybe if you were a baseball player, or football hero, but an airline pilot??? come on! Do you really think that every airline should, if they could, pay their pilots the same as any other airline?. Fortunately for us it's a free market society. If we go down the path of, paying the industry standard, for every pilot, we'll wind up with one airline. Ahhh socialism at it's finest..

 

[Ty Webb]

Let's try to stay on topic here, shall we? No one said that all pilots should make $250K/yr. That's a topic for another string.

What I said was that Comair is a regional airline, that flys regional aircraft, and has a regional pay scale, which they do.

A Capt. at Comair makes less than an F/O at most majors. That is regional pay, no doubt about it.