Comair class date

[Rogue5]

6 more airplanes this year equal how many pilots?

One thing I had pointed out to me earlier, each new aircraft actually means three new pilot positions (one new Captain and 2 new F.O.'s):

One F.O. transitions to CP
One newhire to fill F.O. spot in new plane
One newhire to fill F.O. spot left by transitioning F.O.

I guess the math works out the same for number of new hires but somehow this thought always made me feel even better!

 

[moscowcfi]

I interviewed in April, so I sure hope they will have more classes this year.

 

[Looking4Traffic]

Vacancy Bid

A vacancy bid was recently released that stated, in part, that 36 FO positions needed to be filled in the CRJ due to "attrition" and "additional aircraft." To the extent that eligible 70-seaters do not bid back to the CRJ, those seats will need to be filled by new hires. That is why there is at least one class scheduled in June and another in July and why an HR person told me yesterday that they are conducting further interviews.

 

[Hose]

Looking,

I'm new at this stuff, and I was just trying to figure out what you meant by:

"To the extent that eligible 70-seaters do not bid back to the CRJ"

Thanks,
Hose

 

[N2264J]

...I was just trying to figure out what you meant by: "To the extent that eligible 70-seaters do not bid back to the CRJ"

Some pilots, based on their seniority, may elect to bid away from the CL-700 for a better schedule and more days off.

Bidding the CL-65 might mean getting a line instead of sitting on reserve for the foreseeable future (especially considering the fact that Comair is only allowed 27 CL-700s by the Delta scope clause and we're almost there) and the money is more or less the same.

It's a personal quality of life issue. You'll figure it out soon enough. Growth is your friend and our growth is currently being challenged and artificially restricted by pilots at another airline via our union. They believe you were just hired into a job they "own" and are entitled to. Don't get me wrong, ALPA is a great union (I was a union volunteer for 4 years) it's just suffering from extremely bad managment right now having been hijacked by powerful mainline interests. But more on that later-study for the checkride and get that behind you.

 

[moscowcfi]

The latest rumor from two sources is that they are talking about two classes in July. Of course this could change or may have changed already, but I know how much poolies (like me) love rumors. I sure hope that these rumors are true.

 

[Hose]

I can tell ya that there will not be two classes in July.
As far as the first class, it is still a maybe.

 

[standaman]

I need more good news than that!!

 

[wrigley23]

Ok, Stan, you want good rumors, right? Comair will probably need 65-70 more FOs by the end of the year to fill current vacancies in the 50 and then those created by 50 guys going to the 70 (4 more to be delivered). Of course no one really knows how many are in the pool to fill those seats. May have to have a few more interviews?

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

How is training going boys?

 

[wrigley23]

How is training going boys?

Just peachy! The instructors are excellent. How's prison?

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Just as you described its prison. Taking it in the arss everyday gets old. I hope the nice folks from CVG call soon. I can not wait!

 

[standaman]

Good information Wrigley. Thanks!! Speaking of prison I think I might start a riot tommorrow. They may have to call in the national guard.

 

[chperplt]

From someone in the low 1800s, please come to CVG soon!!!!

You'll love it when you do get here. If you're coming from somewhere that abuses you like I did, you'll be in heaven here!

Being as low on the seniority totem poll as I am, my schedules have been pretty good with some pretty nice trips.

 

[sweptback]

Some pilots, based on their seniority, may elect to bid away from the CL-700 for a better schedule and more days off.

Bidding the CL-65 might mean getting a line instead of sitting on reserve for the foreseeable future (especially considering the fact that Comair is only allowed 27 CL-700s by the Delta scope clause and we're almost there) and the money is more or less the same.

Not to pick on you N2264J, but does Comair refer to the CRJ 700 as a CL-700? Cause it sure isn't. It's a CL-65 just like the CRJ 200, just CL 600-2C10 instead of a 2B19 like the 200 is. I've seen guys refer to it as a CL-70 and CL-700 and it really makes no sense, that's all.

 

[chperplt]

Does Comair refer to the CRJ 700 as a CL-700?

No...

 

[N2264J]

Re: Comair class date...

...does Comair refer to the CRJ 700 as a CL-700?

I don't fly it and don't really know what the official Comair reference is or where I picked up CL-700. I thought "CL-700" was an FAA designation although it's a common rating so "CL-65" is the type on the license. Now that you mentioned it, I'm curious to find out.

As you have said, Bombardier and the Canadians refer to it as the CRJ-700. The slang I hear most around work is "the 70 seater."

 

[StaySeated]

Yawn...

You ruined N2264J's day because he tried twice to hijack this into an RJDC ramble. Did he actually say that newhires have the RJDC to thank for their jobs? Classic.

 

[N2264J]

Re: Comair class date...

Did he actually say that newhires have the RJDC to thank for their jobs?

Yes, I did.

Been doing some Google research and speaking with people in Cincinnati and Montreal. This turned out to be quite a entertaining. I think there's a lot of designations due to the fact that things changed when Canadair became Bombardier and the Canadians have different nomenclature than we do adding more ingredients to the soup.

I was under the impression that it was called the CL 65-700 in the US abbreviated to CL-700 but I can't find evidence of that anywhere.

So here you go:

Canadian: CRJ-700
US type rating: CL-65
FAA type certificate data sheet: CL-600 2C-10 RJ series 700 (short range) or 701 (long range)
As an aside, I've heard the CRJ-900 configured with a first class is called the "705"
When filing IATA: CR7
When filing ICAO: CRJ7
And finally, the answer to your question: Internally, Comair calls it the CRJ-70.

 

[moscowcfi]

Boy is this thread getting off subject! Anyhow, here's some specific info that is not rumor. Comair is calling people for a July 25th class date. Of course this does not preclude them from changing the date, but as of now this date is in play. The recepients are those who interviewed in Feb.