College Required (Don't tell PILOTYIP)

[GoingHot]

America's Highest-Paying Jobs
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By Laura Morsch, CareerBuilder.com writer
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Once you look beyond the doctors, dentists and surgeons, however, the nation's other best-salaried jobs are fairly diverse. Although all of these jobs require a college education, the types of work necessary experience and training vary widely.

1. Chief Executive Officer -- $140,880
Job Description: Oversees all aspects of a corporation, including the company's goals and policies.
Qualifications: Varies, but generally at least a bachelor degree or MBA and considerable work experience.

2. Airline Pilot -- $134,090
Job Description: Transports passengers and cargo via airplane.
Qualifications: Pilot's license, which requires applicants to be at least 23 years old, have at least 1,500 hours of flying experience, and pass a barrage of written and psychological tests.

3. Lawyer -- $110,590
Job Description: Counsels clients on legal matters and represents their party in criminal and civil trials.
Qualifications: Graduation from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) and successful completion of their jurisdiction's bar exam.

4. Engineering Manager -- $140,210
Job description: Supervises workers who design machinery, products and quality assurance testing -- often in industrial plants.
Qualifications: At least a bachelor's degree and considerable work experience as an engineer.

5. Air Traffic Controller -- $100,430
Job description: Organizes and controls the flow of airplanes into and out of an airport.
Qualifications: Pre-employment testing, four years of college and/or three years of work experience, completion of the FAA Academy and an additional controller training program.

6. Computer and Information Systems Manager -- $100,110
Job description: Plans and oversees a company's computer-related goals, including supervising computer programmers and support specialists.
Qualifications: At least a bachelor's degree (MBA preferred) and considerable work experience.

7. Marketing Manager -- $100,020
Job description: Develops a company's marketing strategy, including demand for its product or service and how to target potential customers.
Qualifications: Bachelor or master's degree and considerable work experience.

8. Natural Sciences Manager -- $97,560
Job description: Oversees the research and development activities of chemists, biologists, physicists and other life and physical scientists.
Qualifications: Strong technical knowledge, at least a bachelor's degree and considerable work experience.

9. Sales Manager -- $96,950
Job description: Directs the firm's sales staff, including assigning territories and setting goals.
Qualifications: Bachelor's or master's degree and considerable work experience.

10. Astronomer -- $96,780
Job description: Uses physics and math to develop and solve problems in navigation, space flight, satellite communications and methods of collecting astronomical data.
Qualifications: A doctoral degree, postdoctoral research and additional experience.

 

[mar]

I'd never belong to a club that would have me as a member

...and pass a barrage of written and psychological tests.

Wonder how I slipped thru. <twitch>

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Well, if CareerBuilder.com says it...then it MUST be true.

 

[shroomwell]

These things are such B.S., first of average CEO compensation is way higher than that. Second, I gaurantee if every airline pilots W-2's were averaged, and ATC were too, than the ATC's would have us beat. It sjust numbers and how you look at them, all airline bean counters have it down to a science.

 

[flyer172r]

They must've snuck in those psychological tests. I don't remember ever taking one. Although my CFI oral did make me a little crazy.

 

[Ralgha]

These things are such B.S., first of average CEO compensation is way higher than that.

Doubt it. You're only thinking of large company CEOs. Most companies are not that large.

Second, I gaurantee if every airline pilots W-2's were averaged, and ATC were too, than the ATC's would have us beat.

Maybe, but I bet that if you averaged all airline pilots W-2s, the number would be a lot higher than you think it is.

 

[FN FAL]

I'd never belong to a club that would have me as a member

No, you're a member.

 

[mar]

Oh yeah?

No, you're a member.

I've been called worse by better people.

 

[FN FAL]

I've been called worse by better people.

http://www.thesoundarchive.com/spsounds/towelie_youreatowel.wav

 

[pilotyip]

IT IS NOT, I TELL YOU IS NOT TRUE. LOOK AT ATC, IT SAYS 3 YEARS EXPERIENCED, NO COLLEGE REQUIRED. My brother in law high school graduate, auto mechanic, runs a muffler shop makes more than anyone on the list.

 

[nosehair]

Seriously, GoingHot, you have me confused. Of all jobs on that list, Airline Pilot is the only one that does NOT require college. What's your point?

 

[FN FAL]

IT IS NOT, I TELL YOU IS NOT TRUE. LOOK AT ATC, IT SAYS 3 YEARS EXPERIENCED, NO COLLEGE REQUIRED. My brother in law high school graduate, auto mechanic, runs a muffler shop makes more than anyone on the list.

No, you're a brother.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Seriously, GoingHot, you have me confused. Of all jobs on that list, Airline Pilot is the only one that does NOT require college. What's your point?

Read the first paragraph before the job list. He put it in bold red letters.

 

[Hold West]

I gaurantee if every airline pilots W-2's were averaged, and ATC were too, than the ATC's would have us beat.

May well be, but I think it depends on what you include in your "airline pilot" group. IF you include the scads of guys flying for regionals for peanuts, then yes.

If you want to compare apples to apples, compare major airline captain's pay and ATC's. We are all captain-qualified in our facilities. There are no lesser qualifications, no SIC time, no FO, you are fully qualified to exercise these responsibilities:

"The Radar Position has the responsibility for managing the overall sector operations, including aircraft separation and traffic flows."

That may put a radar controller in the position of leading a radar associate, a coordinator, and a data person.
In addition, most of us are required to maintain controller-in-charge qualifications, adding the extra layer of supervising our peers and the facility as a whole when required.

Keep it on a similar level of responsibility when you start comparing pay.

 

[pilotyip]

No college required

FN FAL, does that mean I am now accepted into the "brotherhood", I am deeply touched, or is it just touched for being in the business. It has been posted that I am anti-college degree. Nothing cold is further from the truth. The country needs all the college-educated citizens it can have, its raises the level of knowledge to keep this as the greatest country in the world. Real degrees in business, engineering, the sciences, math, and medicine provide a graduate with marketable skills. If you are going to go to college, get a real degree from a real university. Do not spend four years getting a degree in Women’s Studies. The college degree has nothing to do with flying an airplane. Many have posted they agree it has nothing to do with the mastering on an airplane. I have admitted that the possession of a degree may open doors at a few select places of employment in the airline industry. If a potential pilot feels they will only be pleased in life if they get an interview with FedEx, then that prospective pilot should go to college. Air Inc advertises that 172 airlines and assorted aviation companies are recruiting right now; I only see four that make the degree a showstopper. My assertion that runs contrary to the ‘College is a must” crowd, is that to be competitive for the other 168 places the degree is not necessary. If a prospective pilots just loves flying airplanes, and would be happy making $70-$100K per year with no debt from college loans, a college degree is not necessary. Many prospective pilots may be steered into attending college when they are not college material, not because of a lack basic intelligence, but because it is not important to them. These pilots want to get on with their lives flying airplanes. I have seen too many non-degreed pilots reach a good career position with out a degree. But then my focus is on job satisfaction and not upon pay, respect, and prestige. It is about the joy of flying an airplane. Others out there may feel the same motivation I do.

 

[Way2Broke]

And just where exactly are they paying pilots that kind of money? The majority of us qualify for food stamps!