cockpit visits still possible?

[Vicar]

Is cockpit visits still possible? After all the news about re-enforcing cockpit doors, arming pilots and keeping cockpits door close at all times...

Even before the recent news of such 'laws' to be imposed, meaning just after 9/11 - Though most cockpits visits are ruled out but there are some times when nice captians allow cockpit visitation.

I have not been on any flight then recently...got tied down to where i am in work and esp. in $$ wise So, was just asking as i would like to travel by the end of the year.

In the past, some pilots who were not on duty would make friendly visitations to the cockpits and have a chat with the pilots on duty, they even offered to do a stand in etc... Is this still going on - allowed?

btw...what are your views on this 'laws' being imposed? both as pax n pilots

thkz

Wishful
Vicar

 

[cpritchie5]

Cockpit visits

Yes...cockpit visits are allowed while parked at the gate. The door is always kept open until departure time. Some airlines encourage visitors and will gald to accomidate you.

 

[HAL]

cpritchie5 is correct. At Hawaiian we always encourage people to come up and visit before we push back from the gate - just ask one of the F/A's. They'll come up and ask us if it's OK, and unless we're really busy with something we'll say to come on up and say hi.

HAL

 

[Vicar]

oh...until now i have never thought off and visited the cockpit while it was parked at the gates... oh how silly..

But what about during flight? i used to visit it during flight...the scenery is nicer and cause of the broad and wide windscreen...there's nice pictures The avionics are more interesting to look at


Thanks for the reply =p

 

[Bluto]

§ 121.547 Admission to flight deck. If you're interested you can find the regulation on the FAA website. Put simply, it says that nobody can be admitted to the cockpit in flight except FAA inspectors, and authorized jumpseaters. The days of little Jimmy visiting the flight deck of a 121 carrier are gone. Sorry.

 

[lear24]

I would not recommend even asking about visiting the cockpit in flight, tensions are pretty high amoung many flight attendants, pilots, and air marshalls after what happened a year ago. While the request may be innocent enough, you may arouse suspicion about your intentions and find yourself being escorted off the flight in a set of handcuffs.

Just visit it on the ground.

 

[HAL]

Yes, that is right. Admission to the flight deck is OK as long as the main boarding door is open and we have the time. But anytime we are 'operating', nobody gets in unless necessary for the flight. This is mandatory for all US carriers, and I'm sure for most foreign airlines too. Sorry.

HAL

 

[TX_Pilot]

Just wondering how things have changed since 9-11-01 regarding cockpits only guarded by a curtain? (1900, Metroliner, etc..) Are pilots expected to also keep an eye on the passengers as well since there is no FA? I rode on a 1900 from CVN-ABQ-CVN a while back and wondered how vulnerable the guys felt. Just wondering....

 

[Flydaplane]

Careful

I admit that I don't know the history of the poster, and his profile doesn't state much except that he is new to the board and has both dual and civilian ratings??? The questions being posted, together with the poor grammar and English make me a little suspicious. I'm not trying to slam him, granted we all make errors when posting, it's just the grammar/English mistakes coupled with the questions about in-flight visits to the cockpit make me a little suspicious.

 

[watr1]

Flydaplane...I was just thinking the same thing.

 

[Vicar]

Hey common guyz, it was just an innocent plain direct question...i have nothing else in my mind. So what if i have a bad command of english?

What's got into everyone since after 911? Questions i asked relating to aviation in general seems to rouse off peoples suspision....duhz.... seriously, it was just a general question i was just curious if it is still possible to visit the cockpits after all the news of those 'laws' being imposed.

There nothing wrong being curious is there?

Sorry

Vicar

 

[TedCFII]

Cockpit Visits

For as far back as I can remember US Air Carriers have never allowed visitors in the cockpit while "in-flight". Maybe they did in the 60's 70's. After the hijackings in the late 70s-80s. I'm sure that was when it ended if it was even allowed. I have heard of Foreign Carriers allowing passengers "in-flight" visits but I think if they fly into the US now they have to have the reinforced cockpit doors.

 

[TurboS7]

In the US flight deck visits in flight were shut down in the 60'x due to the frequent hijacking of EAL aircraft to Cuba. On most European and foreign carriers flight deck visits were avialiable and encouraged at the captain's descretion. I was flying for a European carrier on 9/11 on 9/12 my wife was scheduled to fly on the jumpseat with more for the first time in my career and marriage in a large aircraft. That morning 9/12 a directive came out forbidding anyone but flight deck qualified company personel to be on the flight deck in flight, and the door must always be locked. To my knowledge all these procedures and more are in effect on all carriers, especially any coming into US airspace. This is very serious any intrusion into any flight deck will be met with brutt force.