Cockiest Regional Pilots

[Secret Squirrel]

All hail G200 and his choices and opportunities in life!!!! YEA!!!!

If you look down your nose at us why do you patrol our little section on this site. As we know ALL corporate pilots make $200,000 a year (bull poop) and have the greatest life(right) and probably were hired right after getting their commercial multi. You must be the biggest a$$. Go away. I like my life.

 

[cforst513]

All hail G200 and his choices and opportunities in life!!!! YEA!!!!

If you look down your nose at us why do you patrol our little section on this site. As we know ALL corporate pilots make $200,000 a year (bull poop) and have the greatest life(right) and probably were hired right after getting their commercial multi. You must be the biggest a$$. Go away. I like my life.

g200 and i have not seen eye to eye when it comes to money and the emphasis of its importance in his life, but what happens to that extravagant lifestyle and huge paycheck if he loses his medical? there are untangibles in life that no one can prepare for. what if he lost an eye or had a heart attack? what then? G200, what would you fall back on? i don't know you or what other gigs you may have, so i'm just curious. are you above getting unemployment checks like other americans with no jobs? how much of your $200,000+/year paycheck do you put into savings? or are you like others that i know that show their wealth off with an extravagant lifestyle, owning multiple expensive cars and homes?

 

[SkyBoy1981]

no different than anyone else...just refused to sell my ass to some regional for sub-Burger King wages.

couldn't afford to. It made no sense to me....I would have been in my mid-late 20s making 30K/yr? I simply couldnt accept that. I would walk from aviation first.

guess refusing that was a good choice for me in the long run.

Your needs or desires may vary, we can leave it at that I suppose?

You are still dodging my question, chief. Did you start out by spending time flying around in the right seat working for nothing? Or did you just get lucky and get a high paying corporate job while you were a CFI?

This "I just refused to sell my ass to some regional for sub-Burker King wages" is horse sh!t. I think you may have just gotten lucky, and if it hadn't been for your luck you would be flying RJ's like anyone else. So get off of your high horse. There is a large chance that, at some point in time, you at least applied to a regional airline of some sort. Whether or not you'll admit it is another story.

 

[ReverseSensing]

If you look down your nose at us why do you patrol our little section on this site.

You may have unwittingly answered your own question.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

You are still dodging my question, chief. Did you start out by spending time flying around in the right seat working for nothing? Or did you just get lucky and get a high paying corporate job while you were a CFI?

This "I just refused to sell my ass to some regional for sub-Burker King wages" is horse sh!t. I think you may have just gotten lucky, and if it hadn't been for your luck you would be flying RJ's like anyone else. So get off of your high horse. There is a large chance that, at some point in time, you at least applied to a regional airline of some sort. Whether or not you'll admit it is another story.

what do you want to know "chief" (?)....none of the scenarios you descride is the route I went....

why in the world would I be "dodging" your pointless question? Why do you care what route I went? no doubt no different than most pilots out there. I just refused to sell myself out to a regional! that was not an option. Is that "lucky"? no, just not STUPID. My first choice after the CFI thing was an ATR at a regional for 14K or rightseat in a Learjet for 48K. 12-18 months later PIC at 60K. glad I didn't choose the job with the "better schedule" and the spiffy uniform..it wasnt an option. I wasn't into living with 6 other swinging diks in a crashpad or living in moms basement. 25yr olds dont do that IMHO.

yeah, me and everyone else "got lucky". jeeesh.

wake up to reality you bozos, nobody - not even fukin Burger King asst. managers make the wages you make!

 

[Gulfstream 200]

g200 and i have not seen eye to eye when it comes to money and the emphasis of its importance in his life, but what happens to that extravagant lifestyle and huge paycheck if he loses his medical? there are untangibles in life that no one can prepare for. what if he lost an eye or had a heart attack? what then? G200, what would you fall back on? i don't know you or what other gigs you may have, so i'm just curious. are you above getting unemployment checks like other americans with no jobs? how much of your $200,000+/year paycheck do you put into savings? or are you like others that i know that show their wealth off with an extravagant lifestyle, owning multiple expensive cars and homes?

no $hit forst.

who has expensive cars and homes? I dont. what made you think that? are you envious of those folks? or are you proud to be poor? thats admirable. Me personally, I think a pilot SHOULD be able to have nice expensive things if he chooses to. Something wrong with that? I guess so judging my regional salarys.

Of course I save a lot of money, you never know when your job ends...corporate or airline. Now...how much can you save making regional airline pay? I can save enought to be unemployed for a year or two...try saving that on regional pay...be back living with your parents! nice! No thanks, not for me.

Is this how you justify pathetic pay? what kind of 30yr old makes 30K a year flying an airplane? How does one live? whats the plan there?

what were you getting at?


anyhow. You guys win. I give up on this thread!

 

[737 Pylt]

G200:
One thing I've learned after many years is that nothing is stable. A wise captain once told me to "never feel comfortable in any job." If you don't have at least 1 years' salary in your savings account, you better be prepared to have the rug yanked out from under you. I don't know the specifics about your job, but recently had a very good friend of mine lose "the most stable corporate job in aviation." There is no such thing as a "stable job in aviation." I'm sure you made your decisions based on what you thought was good at that time. The thing I've learned is that some people can always step in sh1t and always come out smelling like roses. I look at people that I worked with at my first regional job. They didn't persue any majors, they were comfortable where they were with their seniority, and then after seeing most of us bail to UAL, DAL, AMR, NWA US Air, they started updating their resumes and now most of those guys are now flying as captains for JB or Air Train....I envy them....Its all about choices and timing, it sounds like you lucked out. I know several "Real Delta" captains that went through their entire 30 yr. career at DL and never once had to worry about a furlough, and on the other hand I know several TW retired captains who can count on 1 hand how many Christmas' they thought they might have a job the next year!
737

 

[Gulfstream 200]

G200:
One thing I've learned after many years is that nothing is stable. A wise captain once told me to "never feel comfortable in any job." If you don't have at least 1 years' salary in your savings account, you better be prepared to have the rug yanked out from under you. I don't know the specifics about your job, but recently had a very good friend of mine lose "the most stable corporate job in aviation." There is no such thing as a "stable job in aviation." I'm sure you made your decisions based on what you thought was good at that time. The thing I've learned is that some people can always step in sh1t and always come out smelling like roses. I look at people that I worked with at my first regional job. They didn't persue any majors, they were comfortable where they were with their seniority, and then after seeing most of us bail to UAL, DAL, AMR, NWA US Air, they started updating their resumes and now most of those guys are now flying as captains for JB or Air Train....I envy them....Its all about choices and timing, it sounds like you lucked out. I know several "Real Delta" captains that went through their entire 30 yr. career at DL and never once had to worry about a furlough, and on the other hand I know several TW retired captains who can count on 1 hand how many Christmas' they thought they might have a job the next year!
737

you're not kidding.

I never considered ANY flying job very STABLE.

I save as if there are no pensions and no paycheck next month and I always keep my eyes open for jobs. Simply fundamentals to networking and survival IMHO.

Best advice I heard and always followed...if married and into aviation....be able to live off one person working, because you just might be - ANYDAY. Its a comforting feeling to be able to survive. Most corp guys I know are used to instability..they dont seem to be big spenders. They are used to having to fund thier own retirements..now airline guys....humm...I got a few buds at good old DAL/UAL who are just starting IRAs at 40+yrs old. THEY would never be unemployed after getting 500 guys below them! Time for the big Capt's house because the retirement is fully funded! scary.

You get lazy you die! - this IS aviation right?

 

[SoCentralRain]

anyhow. You guys win. I give up on this thread!

Well, I guess you were just kidding.

 

[007]

Why do you care what route I went?

Because you're telling all of us that yours is better.

I wanna know how to make 200,000.

BTW I used to be corporate and I have never seen any Lear operators offer that much money for the right seat. In the first year anyways. Maybe now but not a couple of years ago. Especially not in the 90's.

Tell me the company's name so I can apply.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Because you're telling all of us that yours is better.

I wanna know how to make 200,000.

BTW I used to be corporate and I have never seen any Lear operators offer that much money for the right seat. In the first year anyways. Maybe now but not a couple of years ago. Especially not in the 90's.

Tell me the company's name so I can apply.

please find the post where I said I make 200K? the hairgel gettin to ya? back to your blog!

Id like to know how to hit 200K+ also. But I can tell you this, I will keep trying to get there! To me money is a large part of QOL.

PS - that was my lear pay in 1996. I know, hard to believe a pilot would make 48K huh?

 

[pianoman]

Glad you're happy with your life. Why do you feel the need to try and make everyone else miserable with theirs?

 

[BenderGonzales]

I think Gulfstream makes some great points -- but boy I wish he'd be a little bit nicer about the way he makes them!

I was airline for ten years and now i'm corporate. Wish I made the decision sooner. Folks, he's right. It's a better lifestyle and, at least for now, offers better security and better compensation.

That doesn't mean he's not being a jerk. It just means that even jerks can be right.

-Bender
(about six months salary in a money-market just in case...)

 

[SkyBoy1981]

If G200 hadn't been offered a job flying Lears for 48k a year as a CFI he'd probably be flying a CRJ900 for Mesa making table scraps. The arrogance of some folks in this business never cease to amaze me. Why is it that the bad eggs always get the big breaks?

 

[Winged Sig 599]

G200...

You sir have the biggest case of small cock syndrome in history....
Let me guess you drive an H2??!!

 

[cl604driver]

maybe you guys can think you are cocky walking around the terminals in your uniform and hats flying a little rj but at the end of the day and year lets compare pay stubs and or W-2s and really see who should be and shouldn't be cocky..

 

[jbDC9]

Is that "lucky"? No, just not STUPID. My first choice after the CFI thing was an ATR at a regional for 14K or rightseat in a Learjet for 48K. 12-18 months later PIC at 60K. yeah, me and everyone else "got lucky". jeeesh.

Well now... that kinda sounds like getting lucky to me. Most of us poor pathetic losers just don't get the option to make such a choice; in many cases the only options after instructing might be freight dog for not much money or a regional airline for even less money. Seems to me it can be a bit tough to break into the corporate flying world unless you're connected.

In that one paragraph you try to make it sound like you made all the right choices and luck had nothing to do with it, yet at the same time you show us just how lucky you were. Perhaps you don't consider being offered a Lear seat for 48K lucky, but I think the rest of us know otherwise.

Now, back to the thread topic, I do indeed see a few cocky looking RJ pilots in the terminals here and there, but as to who's the "cockiest"? Uhhh, I dunno.

...walking around the terminals in your uniform and hats flying a little rj

Now that's funny coming from a Learjet Pilot, calling an RJ little...

 

[BenderGonzales]

<--- Learjet pilot who used to fly Boeings.

I still call the RJ "little". It is usually a preface for "piece of sh......"

 

[Secret Squirrel]

maybe you guys can think you are cocky walking around the terminals in your uniform and hats flying a little rj but at the end of the day and year lets compare pay stubs and or W-2s and really see who should be and shouldn't be cocky..

How about I stack my life next to your miserable life. What kind of idiot thinks that comparing pay checks is going to be a good indicator of what kind of person you are or what kind of life you lead. You sir are an idiot and I would compare my life to yours any day of the week. Good day sir!!!

 

[Winged Sig 599]

Personally.....

I think some of these cats like doubling as flight attendants.....

 

[737 Pylt]

maybe you guys can think you are cocky walking around the terminals in your uniform and hats flying a little rj but at the end of the day and year lets compare pay stubs and or W-2s and really see who should be and shouldn't be cocky..

What an arrogant statement!! and you talk about being cocky?!? What are you like 12??
OK kid...Does that include my real estate business I got as my primary source of income?? Didn't you used to clean my pool! My pool cleaner used to fly a learjet!
what a tool!
737

 

[Stealthh21]

What an arrogant statement!! and you talk about being cocky?!? What are you like 12??
OK kid...Does that include my real estate business I got as my primary source of income?? Didn't you used to clean my pool! My pool cleaner used to fly a learjet!
what a tool!
737

oh my.

 

[temcgrew]

I don't think any of us have much room to question the mountain flying skills or experience of a group like SKYW. It's not freakin brain surgery anyway, even at ASE

So, what would a Brain Surgeons say......."it's not like flying into Aspen ya know."

 

[landlover]

you all suck and i win!!!!!! why do i win ??? i dunno, i just do.

 

[30West]

Come jumpseat with us into Quito at max landing weight in the middle of the night with an old steam gauged Diesel 10. Makes ASE look like DEN. I thought Iknew about flying back in the days of dunking 1900's and SAABS into Johnstown and Altoona in the middle of a blizzard but after a year flying freight in South America and Africa turns out I didn't know crap. Bottom line is each job has it's own challenges. But the one common denominator is that there are smoking holes all over the world full of guys who ran out of experience before humility.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Bottom line is each job has it's own challenges. But the one common denominator is that there are smoking holes all over the world full of guys who ran out of experience before humility.

Well put!

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

I have found out over the years that the most dagerous pilot out there is the arrogant sob that tells you what a good pilot they are!

Anytime I hear that...I know to watch them like a hawk because they are going to try to kill me somewhere during the trip!

 

[Stealthh21]

I have found out over the years that the most dagerous pilot out there is the arrogant sob that tells you what a good pilot they are!

Anytime I hear that...I know to watch them like a hawk because they are going to try to kill me somewhere during the trip!

There is a guy just like you discribe just a few posts up from yours.