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satpak77

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please someone offer guidance before I choke him out or simply poison him at breakfast

Part 91 op, pilots trade every other leg, both "captain"

says "yepper" all the time when he should say "yes, roger, affirmative"

stacks jepp charts, checklist on top of "dashboard" so when power is applied it all falls down into his lap, every flight, like clockwork

grabs his nuts every 5 minutes between cups of coffee and smoking....gives them a good yank

when I tell him, "uh, little below VASI, watch it" he replies "I have runway in sight, you see anything between us and the runway (along with sarcastic laughter - hahahahah)

puts full flaps down at irregular points, somedays its 1000 AGL, other days its 200 AGL, etc, etc

thinks ice doors should come open only when a ice sculpture Swan is on the wiper blades

Missed re-setting pressurization for cruise level one day, I nicely stated "and looks like we need to reset pressurization for cruise" he replied with a 5 minute technical Phd thesis why the system should still maitain proper cabin without controller being reset

hand flies to FL 350 while pax get sea sick

(while hand flying---->) looks down to get a chart or to yank his balls again and almost rolls the airplane

(while I am hand flying) he grabs the yoke to talk to ATC so hard that we turn base everytime he calls Tower

you say "white" he says "black"

likes to argue

You could tell him it is a nice day, blue skies, and he would bitch that he isn't getting actual today

will talk to pax on PA then call Tower 14 times then remember to move switch back to COMM from PA

You could tell him that you killed a bear this year on a hunting trip and he will tell you about a safari where he killed 2 lions

Be the way this guy is 58 yrs old and I am 32

etc etc

again, I am cooking some laced Breakfast bars for this guy

someone step in and stop this train
 
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my condolences.

i was lucky to have avoided this when flying corporate, with the exception of one captain we used only occasionally.

talk to a lawyer - maybe a jury would rule it justifiable...
 
His initials wouldn't happen to be GL, would it?

Try talking to him about it. Just say that you're confused about his behavior and you would like to know why he behaves the way he does. If that doesn't work, try talking with other pilots in the flight department (if there are any) about it.

SK:cool:
 
Find a better job.

:D

we all been there, done that!. I swear I have flown with this guy a few years back....

You wont make it better, guys like that aren't worth the breath.

Just think how much you will enjoy your next gig!

Hand flying at Fl350?...uh....WHY? What a dork.
 
Re: D1ckhead co-captain

satpak77 said:
please someone offer guidance before I choke him out or simply poison him at breakfast
You're going to have to live with the personality quirks (sorry) and start documenting deviations. Deviations from FARs, deviations from standard practices, deviations from Company procedures, deviations from aircraft procedures or limitations - - EVERYTHING.

Keep a log of what you considered to be a deviation, when and where it occurred, what you said or did (if anything), what the response was (if anything). If you cannot address the subject with him directly and resolve the issues, take it to your boss. If it's possible to avoid mentioning the name at first, don't. Just address the actions, and the propensity to operate in an unsafe fashion. Emphasize the threat to the company, and the threat to your person that is involved.

If this gives you no satisfaction, you can choose to put up with it, or leave. Make sure you make the decision objectively.

Telling lion stories and readjusting his underwear are offensive, to be sure, but they are not unsafe. Try to remain objective.
 
I agree, you will fly with ALL sorts, no matter where you work..

Be careful on going to the boss. Best to just find your better job. Then if the boss asks why you are leaving, you can give your .02 cents.

Your limited time with Capt Dikhead could just be 100X worse by going to the boss...I personally think you can keep the operation safe without the boss involved - plus it didnt sound like there was any real SAFETY issues involved - just an idiot with no procedures...

good luck to ya!!
 
For the annoying stuff, sometimes you just have to suck it up.

For the safety of flight stuff, tell him he can kill himself on his time but if he doesn't get with the program, you'll turn him in to the feds.

Going to the boss on the safety items is not necessarily a bad idea.

I'm not opposed to the "find another job" idea and I really like the "poison him" option.TC
 
Gulfstream 200 said:
... it didnt sound like there was any real SAFETY issues involved - just an idiot with no procedures...
I'm certainly no expert in the type of aircraft here, but icing, cabin pressurization, and below glideslope sound like safety issues to me.

If the guy is a liability to the company, the boss may want to hear about it.

If there are other pilots, talk to them as well. They may have similar stories to report, and they may want to help with the blanket party! :)
 
TonyC said:
If there are other pilots, talk to them as well. They may have similar stories to report, and they may want to help with the blanket party! :)

Start spreading these rumors around the company. Eventually they will get back to him, and if he's smart enough, he will change.

If not, just write your observations about him on the crapper stall next time you are taking a dump. At least it will make for great reading material for others.
 
Sounds to me like most of the problem lies in dual captains. Bad idea. Why would a company do that?
 
Dual Captains is very common in corp gigs.

All it means is that they usually dont have a "green F/O" like the airline arena - but charter/corp operations can be more demanding - no canned flight plans, most dont have dispatchers, etc...so having two more experienced guys can be an asset.

Rest assured there is always DESIGNATED PIC, (or at least there better be!!)

Rememeber --

There is a big difference between a PIC and a type rated "Co-Captain". All one needs to be a "Co-Captain" is a type rating from FSI or something of the likes...not too demanding.





:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
poison

him. Make his wife rich from insurance, marry his daughter, inherit his car and pay.
 
Next time he grabs his nuts wait five minutes and tell him a female saw him grab his nuts and told you she was offended. Tell him she said something on the line of she thought he was sexually harassing her, that should put a stop to that. Is there a CVR in the airplane, if so, say I'm glad there is a CVR in here because if we ever hit anything going below the vasi, the last words you hear on the tape is me saying we are low below glide path. Start putting things on the glareshield as well tell him you want to make sure the aircraft is laterally balanced. In short, be a d!ckhead back too him
 
You tell Phil to Kiss your a$$ and **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** off. Let him complain about you. Then maybe A$$holeman will listen.
 
flint4xx

once again, you are perfectly on speed and on target

this is why I sent Herb some Wild Turkey with my resume wrapped around it

I also sent Colleen a "I love Vermont people" shirt

HEY---> what have I got to loose? Whats gonna happen? I have to fly with nut grabber while we go below VASI?

:D
 
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Hand flying at Fl350?...uh....WHY? What a dork.

There is nothing wrong with hand flying a FL350. Why does that make someone a "dork"?
 
If the AP is deferred its fine to handfly at FL350. Otherwise we have an obligation to provide as smooth a ride as possible to the pax. By extension that means you should have the AP on.
 
Re: flint4xx

satpak77 said:
once again, you are perfectly on speed and on target

this is why I sent Herb some Wild Turkey with my resume wrapped around it

I also sent Colleen a "I love Vermont people" shirt

HEY---> what have I got to loose? Whats gonna happen? I have to fly with nut grabber while we go below VASI?

:D
Satpak,

You wouldn't happen to operate out of BTV with a BE-350 with Raisbeck strakes and stack mods, would you?
 
nah man not me, but from the sounds of it, this guy as a few clones out there flying with members of this board!

It is my understanding that Ms. Barrett is from Vermont.
 
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