CNBC reports 10% capacity cut for NWA

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

From the internal memo, it looks like just a few more DC-9s than were originally planned, plus a few more 757/320s. The frieghters were already going to be parked, they're just moving up the time table.

Disappointing, but not unexpected.

Nu

 

[avrodriver]

Looking at LOA 19. I think there are restrictions on this sort of a transfer. Lets not get excited when there might be a very clear, easy, answer.

I know..I know...it needed to be said though since the topic was brought up though. I'm sure FedEx will snap these up in a heartbeat. In any event hopefully this is already planned for in the numbers or it's such a slight adjustment in flying that pilot jobs are left untouched. It turns my stomach with all the potential people that are about to be put on the street at other carriers. Last thing I want to read about is a DAL/NWA pilot being included in those numbers.

 

[FBN0223]

Steenland has got to go, NOW!!! Under his leadership, most solutions start with chopping mainline flying. He is the perfect Ax Man. Cutting the B757 fleet is ridiculous as it is the most efficient aircraft at NWA.

 

[~~~^~~~]

I am trying to figure out if WE at DL will do any more cutting?
Bye Bye--General Lee

Anderson just last week was quoted as saying that he does not anticipate further cuts beyond which were announced early this year.

The 757 is a great aircraft, maybe they will get cheaper in the used market.

Anyone know how well they are holding up from a reliability stand point as they age? Are they built tough enough to become like the DC8's, who's economics kept them flying forever?

 

[General Lee]

Fleet reductions
As a result of the reduced capacity, Northwest is removing a combination of 14 B757s and Airbus narrowbody aircraft from the fleet.
In addition, the DC-9 fleet will be reduced from 94 aircraft at the start of 2008 to 61 aircraft (20 DC9-30s and 41 DC9-40s/50s) by year-end. Northwest also accelerated the retirement of three freighter aircraft from its cargo operation.




Was that more than originally announced?

14 757/A320/19s
61 DC9 (30s and 40/50s---I thought it was 30 -30s?)
3 742s



Bye Bye--General Lee

Hey, I think I misread this above. They are NOT parking an additional 61 DC9s, they will HAVE 61 total DC9s at the end of the year. I thought the number was 68, so maybe they will be parking an additional 7?

Did they account for the 3 742s before? Overall, not as bad as it could be I guess....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[regionalcap]

Wish the best for you guys. Hope we can pull together and get through these tough times.

 

[Schwanker]

April's letter vs. today's letter - Not much more

This was cut/pasted off the NWA ALPA board:



While today's announcement of additional capacity and fleet reductions is somewhat vague, a quick comparison with what has already been announced leads me to conclude that the incremental reductions are small. I have pasted excerpts from today's press release and Doug's letter below (in boldface) with excerpts from April's announcement below for comparison purposes.

In response to the extraordinary fuel cost increases, Northwest will reduce its mainline capacity (domestic and international) in the fourth quarter of 2008 by 8.5% - 9.5% versus the fourth quarter of 2007. This includes the reductions previously announced in April.

In September, after peak summer travel concludes, Northwest will reduce its scheduled domestic system capacity by approximately five percent versus the 2008 business plan.

(Not an apples to apples comparison because I believe that the 2008 business plan called for a small increase in 4th quarter ASMs year over year)

As a result of the reduced capacity, Northwest is removing a combination of 14 B757s and Airbus narrowbody aircraft from the fleet.

In addition, the DC-9 fleet will be reduced from 94 aircraft at the start of 2008 to 61 aircraft (20 DC9-30s and 41 DC9-40s/50s) by year-end.

As a result of the five percent domestic capacity reduction from planned levels, Northwest will remove an additional 15 to 20 aircraft from service. Two DC9s will be removed in June and the remainder in the fall to coincide with the planned schedule reductions, bringing the total DC9 fleet to 61 aircraft year-end. The overall fleet reductions include approximately 10 DC9s, and the balance being a mix of Boeing 757s and Airbus A320s and A319s.

(No incremental change in the DC-9 fleet and somewhere between 4 and 9 A-319/320 and 757 reductions)

Northwest also accelerated the retirement of three freighter aircraft from its cargo operation.

Northwest Cargo is also accelerating the planned retirement of the three oldest, least-fuel efficient freighter aircraft.

(No incremental change in freighters)

As part of our disciplined fiscal approach, we are closely managing our capital expenditures, having reduced planned non-aircraft cap-ex spending in 2008 from $255 million planned to $150 million as our new target.

Northwest will reduce non-aircraft capital expenditures for 2008 by approximately $100 million. The airline now intends to invest $150 million in non-aircraft capital expenditures in 2008.

(Nothing new here)

Although the announcement of more reductions is not good news I am surprised (and relieved) that it wasn't much worse.



Schwanker

 

[Max Powers]

Your losing about 33 DC-9? Isn't that the same number your senior union officals allowed Mesaba to fly?

Boys don't sell out SCOPE!!!!!! This profession is horrible enough for the 40 and below age group. Take a stand for us and don't sell out scope. When you sell out SCOPE you keep us as your indentured servants.

 

[Papa Woody]

That would be bull-@#$ if they went to DAL.

This is just the beginning of <<The Delta Treatment>>

A note to Northwest pilots:

1) You will be totally screwed by Delta
2) You will be totally screwed by Delta pilots
3) It will suck to be a "Delta pilot", because you won't really be a Delta pilot
4) It will suck to sit in the cockpit with a Delta pilot
5) After all is said and done, Delta will likely go the way of PanAm, TWA. History tells all.

....don't buy-in to the hype....Delta is a has-been.

 

[DYLIN]

This is just the beginning of <<The Delta Treatment>>

A note to Northwest pilots:

1) You will be totally screwed by Delta
2) You will be totally screwed by Delta pilots
3) It will suck to be a "Delta pilot", because you won't really be a Delta pilot
4) It will suck to sit in the cockpit with a Delta pilot
5) After all is said and done, Delta will likely go the way of PanAm, TWA. History tells all.

....don't buy-in to the hype....Delta is a has-been.

Takin' a look at the route maps and such and I'm not quite seeing how Delta is going to go to way of Pan Am or TWA.

 

[AA717driver]

NW will begin selling their 757's to American who will promptly sell them to Delta at a loss because they have Pratts... TC

 

[General Lee]

This is just the beginning of <<The Delta Treatment>>

A note to Northwest pilots:

1) You will be totally screwed by Delta
2) You will be totally screwed by Delta pilots
3) It will suck to be a "Delta pilot", because you won't really be a Delta pilot
4) It will suck to sit in the cockpit with a Delta pilot
5) After all is said and done, Delta will likely go the way of PanAm, TWA. History tells all.

....don't buy-in to the hype....Delta is a has-been.

A has-been that will be the largest airline in the world, and will cover it better than any other legacy. You seem like you were "hurt" somehow by Delta? Let me guess, you caught a little wake turbulence in your C152 behind one of our 757s? I thought so. What a putz. History tells all eh? Someone has to be the biggest. The difference here is that both of our airlines went through the BK process and have been leaned out to be successful. You are still a putz.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[scarlet]

The biggest with the worst customer service= and NO I have no dog in the fight...ask AA and United about being big????

 

[9rj9]

A has-been that will be the largest airline in the world, and will cover it better than any other legacy. You seem like you were "hurt" somehow by Delta? Let me guess, you caught a little wake turbulence in your C152 behind one of our 757s? I thought so. What a putz. History tells all eh? Someone has to be the biggest. The difference here is that both of our airlines went through the BK process and have been leaned out to be successful. You are still a putz.


Bye Bye--General Lee

was it reamed out or leaned out?

 

[General Lee]

was it reamed out or leaned out?

A bit of both I am afraid. Hopefully we will chip away and get a bit of that back in our joint contract. Probably not a lot, but it's better than nothing in these high gas times...

Bye Bye--General Lee