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Your idea of how kids should behave and how parents should correct them lacks experience in the real world of parenting.

And this attitude right here is why kids in America are so $*%&ed up.
 
My brother I got our asses busted when we acted out in public as kids...19 months or otherwise. Only took us a couple times to realize when mom or dad says sit there and be quiet, you sit there and be quiet. My brother does the same with his 17 month old son, and I plan on doing the exact same with my children.

Guess we're in the minority?
 
I just saw this story resurrected on Fox news tonight (Geraldo, who's so compassionate) and saw the mother, father complaining about the airline and the little child almost trowing a fit on live TV. The interview was about two minutes. The first minute was Geraldo interviewing the parents, and then shots of the little kid, who by this time was throwing a fit in the hands of the parents.
In this industry you need to impress EVERY guest on board your aircraft. ERJs aren't that big, and when you have a screaming child, it makes the flight intollerable for every guest on board your aircraft. Then you're forced with a decision, do you bump a mom and dad who don't know how to make their child behave, or let them stay and make the flight miserable for 80 percent of the rest of the passengers. It was the captains decision, and the airline can more easily deal with two unsatisfied customers than the whole plane who will then go and tell all of their friends "it was the WORST flight ever on "xxxxx".
It sounds like these parents need to learn how to get their kid to behave in public, or avoid public transportation because of him. That's the price you pay when deciding to have kids and then not teach them how to behave in public. And then go after the airline for trying to please the rest of the guests on their aircraft. That's just absurd.
 
My brother I got our asses busted when we acted out in public as kids...19 months or otherwise. Only took us a couple times to realize when mom or dad says sit there and be quiet, you sit there and be quiet. My brother does the same with his 17 month old son, and I plan on doing the exact same with my children.

Guess we're in the minority?

Lucky for you your parents didn't use logic and compassion, you might have turned out to be an axe murderer.
 
Lucky for you your parents didn't use logic and compassion, you might have turned out to be an axe murderer.

"Logic and compassion" doesn't get a child to behave...discipline does. A healthy fear of punishment from my parents kept me out of trouble as a child, and it taught me a thing or two about the proper way to act as an adult.

From my observations today, most coddled children and their acquiescing parents don't know anything about that...
 
I am probably the BIGGEST fan of discipline that you will ever find. I believe in spanking and such. I think ritalin is the dumbest drug ever invented, that self esteem should be earned, not given, and that kids are these days, generally spoiled. All this BS about A.D.D. today is 90% an excuse for lazy, poor performance and a lack of motivation caused by absentee parents and the result of the greatest invention of American history...the Murphy Brown single mom ethic (it looks like Dan Quayle was right after all).
I am also the first one to stand up for an FA when warranted (which I consider to be almost all the time). But you people seem to miss a few things here. I watched the 6 minutes on the interview where the kid was "unrestrainable" as one of you put it. It seemed to me that all that was needed was to take him out of the bright lights and be held. He calmed down pretty darn fast after that. I watched the numerous other feeds too. Point 1: this event was after an 11 hour delay. What do expect but for a 1 & 1/2 year old to be like? 11 frickity dickity hours, most adults behave worse.
Point 2: Not even ONE other passenger is siding with the FA. It would seem to me that if it was that bad, that the FA would have at least one person behind her.
Point 3: I have been on planes, so many times where there is a crying baby and here are all these nasty looks. And on that same plane, a yapping dog making more moise than the baby. The same people glaring at the baby make all the cutesy little "ooooh, look at the little BABY!! SO CUTE!". But guess what...they're talking about the DOG!!! W-T-F??!!!
My point? I have seen both sides of the story and it just seems we had some FA who hates kids and lied to the CA just to show she's boss. I'm sure had it been that terrible that someone, anyone would have come up to back up the FA. She's alone on this one. And especially aftert an 11 hour delay, someone should have been impatient enough to complain about the kid. But sorry...just the FA. She has no case here.
 
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My brother I got our asses busted when we acted out in public as kids...19 months or otherwise. Only took us a couple times to realize when mom or dad says sit there and be quiet, you sit there and be quiet. My brother does the same with his 17 month old son, and I plan on doing the exact same with my children.

Guess we're in the minority?

Not only in the minority, but CNN is just dying to set an example of abusive parents like you destroying the liberal agenda!
 
"Logic and compassion" doesn't get a child to behave...discipline does. A healthy fear of punishment from my parents kept me out of trouble as a child, and it taught me a thing or two about the proper way to act as an adult.

From my observations today, most coddled children and their acquiescing parents don't know anything about that...

Hmmmmmmmmmm....... Discipline and punishment in your mind equates to physical pain. (Spare the rod and spoil the child, right?)

And this punishment must start at what age? Two days? one year? It must be before 17 months because your brother, whose parental skills you so admire is already whipping his 17 month old.
 
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You were lucky. Try a sock full of nickels. Ouch. ;)
The "backhand" and other moves such as Sweeping the Leg, Power Drivers and gouging of the eye balls were all for public use only.
When we were behind closed doors, it was all about Soda cans in pillow sheets. Mom and the Louisville Slugger. I swear she could bat clean up for the Yankees.
Dad had an old car battery in the basement, that he used to hook us up to and then make us stand in a pan of water. He stopped that after my older brother developed a limp, that causes him to walk in circles today.
 
Heyas,

Of course, you don't have to have a lot of mass to instill fear. My mom used a flyswatter, and man, did that thing hurt....it left little waffle shaped welts.

Let's not forget the old fashion yard stick. The plastic ones lasted longer, but the old school wooden ones with the metal tip hurt like a SOB.

Needless to say, I sat up straight, put my feet on the floor, ate my dinner and did my homework.

Nu
 
Anyone else fly around on the flight deck with their parents when they were about the same age as that kid?

The rule was, if I said anything, or touched anything, I went to the back with Mom. I was on my very best behavior around airplanes, although I was known for crawling under the Flight Engineer's (Dad's) panel and sacking out.

Can you imagine the holy hell that would get raised if your two and a half year old was on on the flight deck with you these days? Back then, going to work with Dad, was just going to work with Dad and the 727 had all kinds of room up front.

Anyone else notice that kids these days seem unable to focus? Really makes you wonder what is in the food.
 
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"See this? At my house, this is what happens when you spill paint in the garage at my house. It's just about the shape and size of a cigar".

What movie?
 
"Logic and compassion" doesn't get a child to behave...discipline does. A healthy fear of punishment from my parents kept me out of trouble as a child, and it taught me a thing or two about the proper way to act as an adult.

From my observations today, most coddled children and their acquiescing parents don't know anything about that...


Amen bro! Amen!

Got my a$$ beat with a belt a few times and I think I turned out fine....of course my honey might argue that.
 

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