Citizens On Patrol, the local flyer playing airport enforcer. Have you met one yet?

[PDH]

regardless of the type of aircraft you are flying..you still shouldnt have cut him off. Its rude, unprofessional, and yes even unsafe. When you start cutting people off instead of waiting your turn you put yourself in the position of having to identify whether you can make it in in before the next guy or not. You could take longer than you anticipate and then this poor smuck had to do a go around...or worse you crash and people die. Wait your turn next time is my advice.

You have 5 or 6 planes in the pattern at an uncontrolled field. You have some older gentleman flying a homebuilt taildragger who is barely reporting his positions and flying vso +2. In order to keep things safe and professional as you would deem, I would have to be on a 5 mile final and other aircraft beyond me. I try to never put myself in the unsafe position of deciding whether or not I can make it. It is typically a black and white decision. I had my after landing checklist completed before he had even put his wheels on the runway. Some controlled airports run them much tighter than that. Even my instructor agreed with my decision. He was there. Safety is a subjective term to some. I feel that 3+ miles is a substantive margin for error considering the circumstances. Maybe I am wrong....I hope not.

 

[FN FAL]

I had my after landing checklist completed before he had even put his wheels on the runway.

Still reading how to fly a plane?

 

[PDH]

Still reading how to fly a plane?

Yep, I have Alzheimers. It started.....Yep, I have Alzheimers. It started... Yep, where am I?

 

[jr51xx]

Radio Nazi

Dillingham Airfield on Oahu has a unicom natzi, has markers on his windows to tell if your enting the pattern at a 45 degree angle and actually clears people to land and directs traffic. He actually denied "clearance" to land to a buddy of mine because he didnt enter the pattern at a 45 degree angle and when my buddy told him to screw off he asked for his phone number. If thats not rediculous I dont know what is, after him asking me for my phone number I would have asked him for a hamburger....freak.

I remember that idiot at Dillingham. His radio procedures were appalling and he indeed thought that he was in charge of the universe. Like many other local pilots I just ignored him and made traffic calls. That seemed to really wind him up. There was sometimes some speculation as to why the State of Hawaii would want this guy there and what it would take to really make him self implode.

The shame of it is that after all these years he is probably still there, ranting and raving with his non-existant authority. As in other places with an absence of authority, such as an uncontrolled GA airport, an authority will tend to emerge, even if it is not a legitimate one.

 

[Huggyu2]

Funny you mention Dillingham: I was in Oahu for the first time about 3 weeks ago. While there, I went and got an hour of dual time with an instructor, and we ended up at Dillingham for a couple of patterns. I heard what sounded like someone "controlling" the airport, but remembered that the sectional showed it as non-towered. I figured it was some sort of "local thing", and didn't bring it up when we debriefed the flight. Now, I have "the rest of the story".

 

[Almerick07]

he's still there as of last tuesday....I witnessed it first hand, he gives all the jump planes hell. Luckily I think they cut his shifts down to one or two a week and people just put up with it.

 

[JimNtexas]

he's still there as of last tuesday....I witnessed it first hand, he gives all the jump planes hell. Luckily I think they cut his shifts down to one or two a week and people just put up with it.

I wonder if he or his employer understand the liablity he is accepting by jumping into the control of airplanes?

 

[FN FAL]

I wonder if he or his employer understand the liablity he is accepting by jumping into the control of airplanes?

I seem to remember one of those county employees playing CTAF air traffic controller over on in Michigan or Indiana. It was kind of distracting to get a clearance to land from some guy on CTAF at a non-towered airport. I just kind of ignored it for the most part.

 

[urflyingme?!]

Should have asked for clearance to fart and then clearance to get a chili dog from the restraunt next-door, not to mention clearance on his daughter... BOOYAH!

 

[NuGuy]

FWIW,

Using the CTAF or Unicom for any kind of air traffic control is a HUGE no no in the eyes of the feds, let alone someone unqualified acting in any kind of ATC capacity.

There are so many things wrong with this, I'm surprised the feds haven't gone tilt. Maybe a call to 1-800-Fly-safe might be in order...

Nu