Citation Shares pay raise?

[its me]

Are you guys going to match netjets if ibb passes?

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Of course they are. When we buy them out and they are stapled to our seniority list they will be paid just like us...

 

[RCA]

Will the NJ buyout occur before or after Textron takes 100% ownership of Shares?

 

[Guitar Guy]

Approximately six to nine months after the Textron purchase.

 

[On Your Six]

If they want to continue to attract "the best pilots in the industry" like their corporate video states, they certainly will have to improve the conditions there. Otherwsie their pool of applicants will primarily contain Netjets rejects....

Change will come to the entire industry.

 

[sflax]

Describe improve conditions. Seems like most of the stuff I hear is pretty good in regards to QOL. The pay will change just like it did the last pay raise.

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Describe improve conditions. Seems like most of the stuff I hear is pretty good in regards to QOL. The pay will change just like it did the last pay raise.

Thank you Nostradamus...

Oh, and thank the 1108 for ANY gains you get at CS.

 

[dime line]

Thank you Nostradamus...

Oh, and thank the 1108 for ANY gains you get at CS.

No..No....No.... our company has already been working on a pay raise, even before the new TA was announced, youll see, you bad union people...

hahahahahah, I can see Humphrybogar saying this...

 

[robbo]

Not sure if the last message was serious or not, these threads get off track so quickly. Back to the original question. Do you think that if the NJA contract passes CS will follow. When was the last CS pay raise and how long are the current pay rates good for. The $20,000 difference in first year pay (NJA vs CS) kinda stings.
And please, only constructive opinions relevant to the questions asked, no commedians.

 

[learflyer]

no commedians.

A man walks into his sons room and sees that he is masturbating. The man shouts "son , what are you doing"? "That stuff will make you go blind!" His son says: "dad, i'm over here!"

 

[xpdriver]

Come on everybody let say it together!!

Thank you 1108, Thank you 1108.

Come on CS...louder!!!

 

[blueridge71]

The last CS pay raise was only a couple of months ago, but it mainly applied to senior captains. You are right that they will probably have to raise the FO rates to stay competitive.

As for me, it doesn't matter why I get a pay raise. The important thing is that I get one. Hopefully, it will be without a 39 month seat lock and 8 day tours. But I will give credit where credit is due, it and when everything comes together.

 

[Guitar Guy]

As for me, it doesn't matter why I get a pay raise. The important thing is that I get one.

Actually it's nice to know why one gets a pay raise so when can have an idea, if not a contractual requirement, when the next one might occur.

But I will give credit where credit is due, it and when everything comes together.

Will that be in late November of this year?

 

[dime line]

A man walks into his sons room and sees that he is masturbating. The man shouts "son , what are you doing"? "That stuff will make you go blind!" His son says: "dad, i'm over here!"

Thats just wrong....Wuz up

 

[learflyer]

compliments of Gilbert Godfried.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

I am waiting patiently also to see what happens here at shares. I have to go on record here and say that I don't think we can keep up with the jones' on this one. I very much enjoy working at shares, but I dont drink the kool aid and I call a spade a spade. We will probably get a pay raise that will just be diluted later with an increase benefits costs or a reduction of available overtime. We have a good deal here without a union, but we dont have the best deal in the industry. And our good deals are a result of the indusry changes that the guys in columbus push for. Giving Fo's a 1000 dollars a year over NJ fo's at the last TA and then calling us the highest paid pilots in the industry when we average 2200 dollars a year in benefits reduction. Ok let me stop because this is going down the wrong road. I am a CS pilot, but I am a pilot first and have gone down the same road as many in this industry. When the uniforms come off at the bar it amazing how great most of us get along. I'll go on the record here and say what I feel is the truth, if some dont like it then tough. I pray for NJ guys to get the best deals possible for themselves, while continuing to allow the company itself to prosper. Thats the only way things will improve for the rest of us. Good luck on your TA, and my family and children thank you in advance for my next pay raise.

 

[Ultra Grump]

Skylawyer, good post.

Thats the only way things will improve for the rest of us.

That's true, as long as you keep approaching your company as individuals.

 

[sflax]

The other side of the coin is this. Can any company ie, regional, frac,major turn into a training site for the industry. My last job was one, FO's get the training and then 6 months later move on. At 20k a pop, can the rest of the indusrty have an attrition rate in the 20%, so that netjets can hire guys with experience and a type rating. Can CS and flex stay in business. Give me half of 20k and I will be happier for a while.

 

[IronManNDFW]

OMG!!!

This is FLOPS ver 2.0.

If you can't see it maybe it is time to turn in you're medical...

 

[netjetwife]

Skylawyer, good post.

That's true, as long as you keep approaching your company as individuals.

I'm jumping in here next to UG to shake your hand, Skylawyer. Great post! I like how you mentioned your family; please give them my best regards. I didn't know about the benefits reduction following the pay raise....that's awful... Comes under the tactic of robbing Peter to pay Paul, huh?

I agree with you that frac pilots share a lot of common ground and it has long been my hope that raising the bar at NJA will have a positive impact on the rest of the industry. Let the muttering begin at Shares! The closer we get to Vote Day, the louder CS pilots should become...

A RISING TIDE SHOULD LIFT ALL BOATS, SOME PADDLING REQUIRED