Citation down in Milwaukee,

[chuckthepilot]

Organ team, 6 feared dead. Be careful out there.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070605/NEWS01/706050406/-1/NEWS

 

[Wingman10]

Citation in Milwaukee

GOD bless those that lost their lives and their families.

 

[airplane wizard]

I just heard they had a pitch trim runaway.

 

[Crobar]

They talk about that in training all the time, if it's up you just bank 90 degrees til she falls level again, doing it over and over til you pull the breaker. Anyone ever had a elec trim nose down runaway, guess inverted might be the only way to control that.

 

[SEVEN]

I just heard they had a pitch trim runaway.

Heard the same thing. Sad.

 

[CMI]

They talk about that in training all the time, if it's up you just bank 90 degrees til she falls level again, doing it over and over til you pull the breaker. Anyone ever had a elec trim nose down runaway, guess inverted might be the only way to control that.

Does that work at 2000 MSL? Sounds like they were low when it happened.

 

[goodgig]

So I take it there is no trim wheel?
There is not some other means of stopping that? Most a/c have a few ways to stop it??
Just curious about the setup, not speculating.......

 

[Morgan5s]

Pitch Trim

There is a manual pitch trim wheel.....left of the throttle quadrant.....

 

[sligo1]

Very Sad

We should all pray for the crew and passegers first of all. Its easy being a monday morning quaterback in any aviation accident. Yes it would have alleviated the problem in theory by pulling the circut breaker ( On the CA side bottom row towards the front of the panel. Yes the trim wheel can be manually positioned, but when its happening by the time it is realized who knows what anyone's reaction might be. Unfortunatley its how we all learn and hopefully if it happens to anyone else they might be able to react in a manner that will be able to get the aircraft under controll.

God Bless the families of the victims

 

[Daytonaflyer]

Sad to hear. I hope the patient can find another donor really soon.

Circuit breakers can be very hard to find in an emergency especially if your company has a bunch of old airplanes with the breakers located in different places like my company. The 90 degree bank technique sounds like a very good idea.
Also, consider switching off the batteries, generators, and inverters if needed; all electrical. It might be easier than searching for a circuit breaker. Hopefully you're VMC; you'll be without instruments for a while, get ready to fly the standby gyro, but it might be the lesser of two problems.