CHQ off 13R @ DFW

[Ted Striker]

Anyone know anything about this?

http://www.nbc5i.com/news/3408180/detail.html

 

[ArcticFlier]

Here Ya Go

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2623136

I like the part about it hitting a 'slick spot' and 'slipping off the runway'. OOOPS, I slipped! Please.....


http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/8900567.htm?1c

Apparently, the runway wasn't contaminated, they've got those really cool grooves in them. Something the Canadians need to learn about. What was the temperature in DFW? Was it below freezing? Not......


That's all I can find.

AF

 

[saabcaptain]

I saw the aircraft in question moments after it went off and while the day was sunny and beautiful it was preceded by days of record flooding rains and considerable amounts of water i think were still present on various surfaces due to poor drainage. i somehow doubt the runway was wet but nothing should be said until the NTSB report comes out and pilots have their say. Who knows, at least no one was hurt and it looked like little or no damage.

 

[Saabslime]

FO must have touched the brakes.....

 

[LegacyDriver]

Yikes. Well, looks like a lot of people are going to be moving up a couple of spots on the seniority list...

 

[EatSleepFly]

Just curious (serious question)- what is the captain supposed to say on the PA after something like this?

Glad no one was hurt...

 

[rvsm410]

??

Huh, Sorry folks a dear just ran in front of us, didn't want to Kill Bambi. What do you say?

 

[LegacyDriver]

Just curious (serious question)- what is the captain supposed to say on the PA after something like this?

Glad no one was hurt...

"Welcome to Dallas, Texas, Home of the Six Flags Over Texas Theme Park."

"Sorry folks, the sun was in my eyes."

"Student driver in the right seat, what can I say?"

"Ouch. That's gonna' leave a mark."

"Our CEO says we're supposed to be just like Southwest."

"Did anyone get the license plate on that guy? Sheesh!"

What's the tail number on the airplane any way? I hearby christen her "The Mud Hen".

 

[LegacyDriver]

Can't seem to find the editing function here... I am glad everyone walked away intact. Hopefully the only thing damaged is the crew's ego.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Good News!

Good news for the ERJ crew in DFW. I have been told the airplane had a mechanical problem (something to do with a steering manifold failure) that caused the crew to lose control of the airplane on the rollout. In other words, it was not their fault! I, for one, am very glad to know that these two pilots will keep their jobs. Assume the worst and hope for the best.

Whew...!

 

[flyn96]

I had a buddy at coex have a similar problem, I guess the tiller and NWS on the ERJ blows. His plane had multiple write ups and mx done on the NWS prior to his incident. I guess when the nose gear retract the wheels were cocked to the right and then when they landed it was still that way and well you can obviously see the result. The NTSB found no fault in crew and were restored to flight status immediatly.

If its the same problem its no fault of the crew, just poor Brazilian design.

 

[Britpilot]

If its the same problem its no fault of the crew, just poor Brazilian design.

Actually the design is fine.
The problem is centered around the steering potentiometer, hence the new plackard in the airplane. The part is manufactured in some where other than Brasil.

 

[erj-145mech]

The landing gear components are manufacturered in Germany by a company named Lieghberr(spelling?) for the ERJ's.

 

[FSB99]

darn germans... here we go and save their country from tyranny, rebuild them at our cost, protect them from the evil soviet empire for all those years.. now they throw our planes into the grass... sheesh..

 

[igneousy2]

Actually the design is fine.
The problem is centered around the steering potentiometer, hence the new plackard in the airplane. The part is manufactured in some where other than Brasil.

Maybe it's just me but isn't the STEERING potentiometer PART of the STEERING system!?

I had the exact same thing happen to me while I was based in BOS on the ERJ. Early morning departure out of HPN (white plains, NY). Right at Vr the airplane gave a little "wiggle" about the vertical access. Hardly noticeable. We wrote it off as being a gust of wind or some jet blast. The flight went without incident until the nosewheel hit the pavement of runway 27 in BOS. Once the nosewheel hit the plane suddenly and violently veered to the right swinging to a 45-60 degree angle to the side of the runway. CA (FP) simultaneously slammed on the left brake, throgh the left engine into full reverse, and brought power up on the right engine. I was along for the ride. I watched as we rapidly approached the snow bank on the side of the runway and I actually braced myself for impact. I saw the runway lights right out the windshield. Luckily, it was the captains leg. The captain had been with eagle forever, and was one of the first RJ captains at Eagle, he was also an IOE check-airmen/instructor, in short, he had thousands of hours on the ERJ. I had finished IOE but had not yet completed consolidation, so I was reallly new to the jet. Anyway, we had to get company to tow us back to the gate, we both thought that we had cleaned out some runway side lights so we had Massport check. Surprisingly, all the lights were still in tack and their was no damage to the plane. The next morning with a different plane we landed in BOS with 2 inces of snow on the runway with BRA reported as "FAIR". We were incredibly lucky.

There have been several other incidents at Eage with aircraft experiencing similar problems only in less critical times. A LGA crew had the same thing happen on the taxi-out and had to get towed back.

I have always wondered (I am no longer on the ERJ) if their were any symptoms (other than the wiggle) that were ignored by crews/mx prior to the incident. Weird vibrations, I notice on taxi in that some ERJ wheels are twitchier than others, i've always attributed it to technique, but maybe not.

Anyway, fly safe, keep your finger near the disconnect, and remember that it ain't over until you're getting into your seat on the Logan Express Shuttle.

Later

 

[TriJet]

Just curious (serious question)- what is the captain supposed to say on the PA after something like this?

Glad no one was hurt...

"EVACUATE"

 

[FN FAL]

Just curious (serious question)- what is the captain supposed to say on the PA after something like this?

"Ladies and gentlemen, I'm dissapointed to announce that our First Officer was one greaser landing away from getting a free toaster!"?