CHQ Canceling furloughs?

[GFunk20]

Anybody got any latest news on CHQ apparently canceling some of these furloughs? Thanks.

 

[KingAirer]

There may be a few that were "canceled" due to voluntary furloughs. I would be very surprised if they canceled furloughs before they negotiated again. None of it means anything until then in my ramp walking opinion.

 

[FlyingDawg]

All CHQ furloughs have been cancelled or backed up 1 month. The pilot group suspected this would happen.

In fact class scheduled for next month including new hires. Go figure. Maybe management is tired of doors being slammed in their face and plan to finish the contract next week.

 

[liljetdriver]

Hey Dawg,

I hope this turns out to be the case but I havn't read this anywhere else. True some have been cancelled due to voluntary leaves, and a need for more reserves due to "most" declining overtime with furloughs announced.

I have not yet looked at the final Aug awards but the initial awards had junior F/Os with furloughed beside their status. There is no official word from the company (not surprising) or the union (very surprising if its true) of canceling the Aug furloughs.

Please repost if you know this to be true and not speculations. 60+ guys would be vey happy. Actualy, 750 guys would be very happy.

Contract negotiations resume next week. Letters from our EC continue to show they will not be detered by threats of furloughs or blaming the pilots for lost growth opportunities. The pilot group appreciates the support of our fellow pilots on this board who encourage us to stand tall.

Fly Safe

 

[Strikefinder]

There's no official word, but I've heard the rumors that furloughs are being delayed or cancelled for some of the FOs.

I've also heard that the they're having trouble staffing the transition period for August because there simply ain't any people to fly the trips, and I've also heard that a few trips have had to cancel because there simply wasn't a Captain or FO to fly the plane.

This being my first time going through negotiations at an airline, I don't know if it's normal for weird stuff like this to take place, but any more I doubt just about anything I heard from anybody.

 

[dav8or]

I heard a fo finishing IOE told the CP that he had another job offer and was going to take it since he was being furloughed. He gave the company until wed. to decide but it sounds like the company doesn't want to loose the money they spent on training him. Sure would like to get the rest of the story. BTW no company continues to train employeee's that are being furloughed.

 

[TWA Dude]

BTW no company continues to train employeee's that are being furloughed.

AA has and does.

 

[Be200pilot]

Originally posted by dav8or
BTW no company continues to train employeee's that are being furloughed.

actually CHQ does let them stick around until IOE is completed. My buddy got the notice and continued with sim/IOE.

 

[dispatchguy]

Then, if CHQ is furloughing guys, why was SA running a few SF34s between IND and STL yesterday?

 

[KingAirer]

What do you mean dispatchguy?

 

[FlyingSig]

A large chunk of Delta furloughees had to go to 737 training only to get furloughed the same month they finished IOE... all while knowing they were next in line for furlough.

 

[TWAER]

I was at the STL airport all day yesterday and there were NO SAABs anywhere.

BTW CHQ is not paying for any of the training being done right now. Those slots are still being paid by EMB. You get so many when you buy the plane.

 

[KingAirer]

What would saabs in STL signify?

 

[Skull-One]

It would signify that Shuttle America is flying STL-IND.

 

[Silverhawk]

My ex-flight instructor was the FO on the Shuttle America flight into IND yesterday. It was simply a charter flight, not some ominous sign of things to come.

To the person who claimed that there is a class next month, could you please let us know where you got that info from? I talked to Rosa and was told to expect training to start again in October.

 

[HeavyDriver]

I would like some clarification as well. I was under the impression that operations at CHQ would not resume until Oct.

 

[jdru25]

I was furloughed as of July 31st if that clarifies any questions anyone has. Hopefully it won't be long until all the furloughs get back. As for training to begin again, rumor has it that we will be getting 30-35 more jets in the future. Let's wait and see what happens.

 

[labbats]

If I hear one more guy tell me that CHQ is hiring anyone with 1000+ hours, especially after reading the above posts, I'm going to freak out.

 

[KingAirer]

Say waaa?

 

[jumppilot]

If I hear one more guy tell me that CHQ is hiring anyone with 1000+ hours, especially after reading the above posts, I'm going to freak out.

Considering you have 450 hours, that post made no sense.

If you haven't updated your profile in awhile, I mean no disrespect.

 

[labbats]

None taken. I should clarify.

I have talked to two different guys in the past two weeks who said that if I only had 1000 hours, CHQ is almost giving jobs away. Then I return home and see the above posts and wonder what the heck is going on. One guy says he has a buddy who flies for them and is going to get him in (he has 900 hours... and counting to 1000) and another is a ramper for CHQ.

I've been around long enough to know not to jump on every rumor passed along, but these two really do have inside connections and are telling me this. With no qualifications to make my way into CHQ at this time, but with a sincere interest in making my way towards them in a few months, I am really confused as to hearing two totally different accounts.

 

[TWAER]

We are hiring people with 10,000 hours and people with less than 1500 hours. There is no rhyme or reason for the mins. they are using. But then again, what airline does??

 

[FlyingDawg]

The SA Saab flight from STL-IND-STL was a charter flight to a rewards banquet. CHQ employees were flown on this flight.

 

[KingAirer]

Now that the smoke has cleared anyone know how many actually got furloughed July 31st including the vouluntary ones? And how bout the Aug 31st ones?

 

[PilotRon]

CHQ hires more by personality than flight hours. They realize that if you have to sit next to someone for a month, its much better if they are not a talking sphinkter. The sim ride it to see if you have the basic abilities. But they do not "GIVE JOBS AWAY". If your hired, its because you are what they want personality wise.

When I interviewed the ones turned away were cocky and had attitude.

Good Luck

 

[Tex-Ex]

"Now that the smoke has cleared anyone know how many actually got furloughed..."


I guess I didn't realize the "smoke had cleared"

 

[KingAirer]

Yeah there is still alot of smoke. I just meant since July 31st has come and gone i was wondering how many of the Planned furloughs became actual furloughed.

 

[Badger]

<1000 hr. CHQ applicants...

I'd guess you guys <1000ish are probably bridge program...exramper...or heavily connected with the company.

I will say if it's any barometer to other applicants. I got walked in 2 mo. ago, 2500+ hrs, 135 current, 500 multi, 400 jet & turboprop. nada as of yet.

I gotta say, I'm afraid they'll call and say CHQ doesn't have openings BUT, we got this other thingy called Repub...

Is this Republic thing still in the news or are they gonna make it go away? This is gonna be very damaging to the future of CHQ if it goes off.

 

[winemaker]

So, back to an earlier question. Does anyone know how many pilots were actually furloughed? up till now?

any numbers would be helpful.

 

[Brother Francis]

Source: http://www.ibt747.org/airlines/chq/news/2003/071803chq.htm


DATE: July 14, 2003

TO: All Chautauqua Pilots

FROM: Chautauqua Negotiating Committee

The union is aware of the recent furlough announcements made by Chautauqua management. This move is perceived by the EC to be tactical in nature and does not come as a complete surprise. It is a predictable effort by the company to undermine our bargaining efforts and strengthen the Company?s position at the table. The EC sincerely hopes the Company will recognize the detrimental effect this will have on the welfare and goodwill of its employees as well as the overall operation of the airline. We wish to emphasize to the Chautauqua pilots that this maneuver on the part of the company should serve as a catalyst to solidify our unity.

It is unfortunate that the state of labor relations at Chautauqua has led to circumstances that are undesirable, but we absolutely and categorically refute the Company?s attempt to place blame on both the pilot group and union.

Since the company has not been forthcoming with information to both the union and potential furloughees, we are presently trying to determine the extent of these proposed furloughs and will present the pilot group with the updated information they need.

The Chautauqua negotiation committee would like to ask all pilots to maintain to perform their duties with the typical high standards that are expected of this pilot group. Such attempts at pressuring the pilot group and Negotiating Committee will not provide the company with added leverage, but will only strengthen our unity and determination.

Fraternally,

The Chautauqua Negotiating Committee
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Official #'s are 62 furloughed. Nothing in writing with regard to callbacks or cancellation. Rumored that all will be back by October. Rumored only.
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Source: http://www.ibt747.org/airlines/chq/news/2003/073003chq.htm


July 23, 2003

The Honorable Norman Mineta
Secretary of Transportation
U.S. Department of Transportation
400 7th Street, SW, Suite 10200
Washington, D.C. 20590

Dear Secretary Mineta:

This letter concerns and is in opposition to the Republic Airline application for a certificate of public convenience and necessity pending before the Department of Transportation. While Republic Airlines is a non-operating subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings, Inc., Chautauqua Airlines is an operating subsidiary of the same parent company. The formation and future operation of Republic Airlines is intended as an alter-ego competitor of Chautauqua.

The International Brotherhood of Teamsters represents the pilots and flight attendants at Chautauqua. The creation of Republic Airlines directly threatens the job security of these employees since Republic Airline already has announced that its initial operating routes are those transferred from Chautauqua to Republic. This action represents the work of our members and it has become a major impediment in the resolution of the current bargaining with the Chautauqua pilot group under the Railway Labor Act (RLA).

The intended formation of Republic Airline unnecessarily injures both our members and the state of Indiana. I urge you not to issue such certificate as it undermines collective bargaining under the RLA and its formation does not serve the public interest.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

Sincerely,

James P. Hoffa
General President