Chicago Express to ATA

[deceptibum]

Has anyone heard or have self-stories about moving on from a wholly-owned regional to it's major airline partner. Specifically Chicago Express to ATA? At some airlines it's the kiss of death to move from your owned regional to the affiliated major.

 

[ForgedBlade]

There are a handful of ex-C8 guys here and all is fine. The only grief they may get is from those still at the Regional that has been left behind! Otherwise, it is nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[njcapt]

I've noticed something around 20 C8 pilots who have been hired here in the last year. There seems to be no anti - poaching policy for the C8 folks (unlike just about any other major - regional partnership). A number of them went from the Saab to being type rated in the 757. Hope they don't mind moving down a number this winter when I bid over to their airframe.

 

[UM#1]

Good Idea!

NjCapt,
Good idea, please bid over asap. I need to move up another number on the 73.

 

[Formula1]

Yeah, I second that notion. I want to move up another notch too

 

[njcapt]

On second thought, maybe I'll ride the 73 until I get the chance to upgrade.

 

[flyhard]

Now you are talkin. Stay right where you are.

 

[UM#1]

now NjCapt come on...you know all those ex-757 guys we fly with (73 capts now) complain how much better the 757 is, (roomier, holds speed better, etc). I know you want to be a 75 guy, so don't hold back now, bid as quick and as soon as you can, don't worry about the little guy, jump ship now my son!! help us get kicked out of another overseas hotel!!!

 

[e120pilot]

Question for ATA folks

Just curious how long it takes to get off reserve on the 737 or 757. Is the 757 more senior even though the pay is the same? How about schedules? I'd be interested in any pros/cons of each a/c. Thanks!

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

In the 737 it takes as long as it takes to hire and train 30 more pilots (in the 737).

 

[njcapt]

now NjCapt come on...you know all those ex-757 guys we fly with (73 capts now) complain how much better the 757 is, (roomier, holds speed better, etc). I know you want to be a 75 guy, so don't hold back now, bid as quick and as soon as you can, don't worry about the little guy, jump ship now my son!! help us get kicked out of another overseas hotel!!!

OK, boys. The bidding over the content of my next bid form will begin at $100. Do I hear a hunnert...?

 

[njcapt]

Re: Question for ATA folks

Just curious how long it takes to get off reserve on the 737 or 757. Is the 757 more senior even though the pay is the same? How about schedules? I'd be interested in any pros/cons of each a/c. Thanks!

Most of the folks hired in the last year sat reserve for more than a couple of months only because they wanted to. When I got hired in 07/02 I was #124 in base (MDW) with 97-105 hard lines of flying. I stayed right about there for the next nine months since all the new hires were going into the 757. It really didn't matter, I was getting one of my top 20 bids each month, anyways (gotta love living in your crew base). Now I'm up to #108 in base and am getting one of my top 10 bids each month. Now, I don't care about weekends off or working holidays (I know better than to expect those days off) but have been able to bid some specific days off for concerts and the like, and still get one of my top bids. A lot of the commuters bid the B reserve lines that give them 12 hour notification, and stay at home until called. I tend to bid lines that have trips with mostly PM flying but show before 0900 on the first day. This culls the commuters from bidding those lines, since they have to spend a night in the crash pad before the trip, and since they tend to get back late at night, one after the trip, as well.

There is a weird mix in seniority between the 737 and 757. It all depends on where new hires go. I would be slightly more senior in my base on the 757, but have little desire to go through initial training again so soon. That is unless the bidding for my next bid sheet gets spirited.