Chicago Express Question

[FlyChicaga]

We currently have about 180 pilots I believe. Maybe a bit less. Captain rates start at like 33.something an hour I believe. The payrates are out in my car, so I'll have to get them another time. I spent two months on reserve, but I got fairly lucky. There were something like 4 classes behind me, which pushed me into being a line holder (non-CDO). But right now the bottom 10-12 pilots have been on reserve for up to 3 or more months. They will be on reserve for about 6-7 months by the time we start up hiring again, IMHO. We actually had some people leave from below me on the list, so that might push me a bit closer to reserve again, but I think there will be more classes before that happens. Maybe hiring at the end of the summer. Take this all with a grain of salt, because I don't have the gouge from HR... just what I hear on the line.

Where are you flying a corporate Saab? I didn't know there were any in Chicago. Is it 135 or 91?

 

[vclean]

C8 Payrates:

Year Capt Fo
1 40.30 19.55
2 41.68 23.21
3 43.25 24.84
4 44.87 26.37
5 46.31 27.34
6 47.80 27.89
7 49.20 *
8 50.18 *
9 51.18 *
10 52.20 *
11 53.24 *

 

[tayas1]

I'm flying a Saab out of Aurora It's aircraft 36; one of only 2 with an APU. Not a bad gig at all. Just want to fly more. Thanks for all the info.

 

[flyswatter]

Make it a long story short. It is all really just a how is the lowest man on the totem pole.. We have been able to make a profit at C8, but have to bear the brunt with everyone else..

Rumors have been flying, so anybody's speculation is as good as the next.. Nothing on paper and nothing in writing..

 

[cuban8]

FlyChicaga,

There's one option you didn't consider....

...ATA gets a boat load of 717s, reworks their route structure, and finds no need for any regional flying, especially a 34 seat turboprop with a payload shortfall.....

Just theorizing.

 

[FlyChicaga]

FlyChicaga,

There's one option you didn't consider....

...ATA gets a boat load of 717s, reworks their route structure, and finds no need for any regional flying, especially a 34 seat turboprop with a payload shortfall.....

Just theorizing.

Yup. I figured on that one, but I'm trying to stay optimistic...

 

[PingPong]

PLEASE DONT SAY THAT OR I'LL DROWN IN THIS POOL FOREVER!!

 

[sweptback]

FlyChicaga, love your avatar (had to say that before the morality police got to it!)

 

[FlyChicaga]

PLEASE DONT SAY THAT OR I'LL DROWN IN THIS POOL FOREVER!!

It's ok man, hang in there. I'm not getting all too worked up about things, because whatever the solution I don't think we'll all get released into the world of unemployment for some time. I just want to see things improve, not go south. There IS movement here though, so I'd expect maybe a class in July or August. We have about 5 captains leaving in the next month or so, and had a few FOs leave as well. Note: They all didn't move laterally... many moved up. That means we might need some pilots come late summer. Who knows, we might need lots of pilots come fall depending on the ATA situation. If they skim a bunch of our captains off the top, you could be sitting pretty halfway up (or more) the FO list by this time 2005.

Worrying is like a rocking chair. It gives you something to do, but doesn't get you anywhere. There is a lot of worry and speculation, but we won't really know what is going on until announcements are made. D*mn this ADD, I want to know now!!