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http://www.indystar.com/articles/5/221662-8245-105.html

Bidder has big plans for ATA subsidiary
Investor that wants to buy Chicago Express would expand daily flights from Indy to 64.


By Ted Evanoff
[email protected]
February 12, 2005


Boston investor Jack E. Robinson said Friday that Chicago Express would become a low-fare carrier offering the most daily flights from Indianapolis if he succeeds in his effort to buy the bankrupt 600-employee carrier for $25,000.

Robinson said he would move the headquarters from Chicago to Indiana, possibly Gary; raise employment to 1,500; buy 30 more turboprop airplanes; and launch 64 daily flights from Indianapolis, including nonstop service to Toronto, Ontario.

Offering in-state flights for as little as $30 one-way from Indianapolis to Evansville, Fort Wayne, Gary and South Bend could attract 200,000 passengers a year, he said, and make Indianapolis a hub for Chicago Express.

"You're talking about getting people out of their cars and getting them into airplanes, and that's never been done before in Indiana," Robinson said.

A former Eastern Airlines executive, Robinson outlined his plans Friday for putting in dual hubs at Chicago Midway and Indianapolis International Airport, offering 300 daily flights in total to 37 cities and coordinating schedules with an undisclosed major carrier.

Robinson described the plans in an interview with The Indianapolis Star after he met with airport managers from Evansville, Fort Wayne, Gary, South Bend, Indianapolis and Lexington, Ky., in a meeting closed to the public.

The meeting in the Indianapolis terminal's Board Room, organized by airport officials, is a sign that Robinson appears closer to getting his offer considered by ATA Holdings Corp.

Indianapolis-based ATA acquired Chicago Express in 1999 for $1.9 million but intends to shut it down by March 28 to cut costs while ATA reorganizes in bankruptcy.

Robinson's original $37,700 bid for the feeder line was rebuffed in a Dec. 10 bankruptcy auction, but he continued to urge ATA to sell him the line. The $37,700 figure is his estimate of legal fees for ATA to transfer ownership.

Recently, ATA relented and agreed to put Chicago Express on the market. Robinson's NatTel LLC of Stamford, Conn., came back with a $25,000 offer and proposed terms that include not pressing ATA Airlines for $14 million owed Chicago Express.

On Monday, ATA attorneys will ask a federal bankruptcy judge to approve an investment banker to market the carrier. Georgia entrepreneur Robert Riddell also has said he would place an offer to buy Chicago Express.

Separately, NatTel objected Friday in bankruptcy court to ATA's proposed investment banker, Compass Advisers LLP of New York. Noting Compass already works for ATA's unsecured creditors' committee, NatTel filed papers that said an adviser unconnected to the creditors should be hired.

Robinson, a Harvard MBA, hasn't had experience in the airline business since Eastern folded in bankruptcy in 1991. After that, he and partners formed Cellular One Caribbean, he said, to market cell phone services from its headquarters on St. Martin. After the telephone communications business was sold, the proceeds were invested by his firm NatTel, Robinson said.

Airport officials in Indiana's largest cities want Chicago Express to stay in business because it operates the only in-state daily flights.

After meeting Robinson, Patrick Dooley, Indianapolis airport director, said the investor appears capable.

"We really have to have our folks crunch the numbers," Dooley said. "But the thing we know is, intrastate service can work because it's working for ATA."

The bankrupt carrier did not disclose passenger boardings on Chicago Express as part of its January traffic report.

However, Bob Working, Evansville Regional Airport manager, said he was enthused about early January travel.

Working noted 929 passengers boarded and got off Chicago Express planes at Evansville last month during the first two weeks of service, even with little advance publicity.

"I could certainly believe they are very marketable," Working said. "Chicago Express has a very good operation."

Call Star reporter Ted Evanoff at (317) 444-6019.
 
an airline called Chicago Express but based in Indianapolis?!?!

good luck.
 
Chautauqua has done just fine even though they are nowhere near where they were founded (and named for). Just another example: Care to guess where Alaska Airlines' headquarters happens to be located? Hint: It ain't in Alaska.

There are far bigger problems in this scenario than whether the airline's name is consistent with the location of the corporate HQ.
 
no one cares about Chautauqua since they see Delta/United/USAirways when they get on the airplane.

Alaska serves the NW and is appropriately named.

It sounds like this will be an independent airline.
 
And if you read the article, Chicago Express will still serve Chicago.

It also never said it would be BASED in Indianapolis (Only Gary was specifically mentioned). Fewer than half of the flights would be from Indianapolis... Most would be to and from Chicago.

If Seattle-based Alaska Airlines is "appropriately named because they serve the NW", when Seattle and Anchorage are over 1500 NM apart... Chicago Express would still be appropriately named if most of their flights are hubbed in Chicago... And the remainder of the flights are hubbed in a city only 150 NM away.

I repeat... You are fixating on the wrong problem. $30 airline tickets are the REAL problem. And what about a company bidding $25,000 for a whole airline? That's probably half of what a monthly lease is on a single 340B.
 
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"You're talking about getting people out of their cars and getting them into airplanes, and that's never been done before in Indiana," Robinson said.


Never before. ATA was never based here, and everyone in Indiana are driving northern rednecks that need to fly more. That would have been a better statement. Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. If If If If If If If If. I feel for you guys. I'd rather collect unemployment than work for this knob.
 
CitationLover said:
bet you'd jump to work at airtran!

Bet again. Plus, it will never work. The guy is a Harvard MBA...just like the rest of the tools running airlines these days. Actually, I guess it will work out ok for him, just not everyone else.
 
well at least it is a plan. That is more than ATA has come up with in the last five years. Does anyone believe he will actually implement the plan? No. He is just looking to make a quick buck like everyone else. It would be nice though if he could at least keep things going for a little longer while we all look for jobs.

If ata's goal is to not have anything to sell they are doing a great job. They announced that were not going to be sold, the former SWA in charge now changed their minds and decided to shut us down,then shortly after that they decided they could maby make some money and decided they would sell us. Seems to me if they would have continued as we were prior to the bankruptcy and did things in the reverse order(announced sale first) we might have been a better asset than the shell we are now.

$30 is fine each way in a saab. You would need 20 or more people and be subsidized in every city you flew in to. Saabs are cheap to operate and we all know that crews don't make jack.

I guess my thoughts come down to this. I don't know this guy or the retired delta pilot who have come out of the woodwork but I give them a chance. Can't be any worse then shutting down..... Could it?

P.S.
I would work for Airtran. Been trying for a couple of years.
 
I don't know how they could fly independantly from a major. Not to mention flying in-state would be some what of a hassle, driving to the airport and then getting a taxi or renting a car when you arrive at your destination. It just makes better sense to drive the 2-3 hours.

Now if they can work out some kind of code-share with ATA I think it may work. But I've also heard that in ATA's new business plan turbo-props would be eliminated so I don't know how this is going to work...
 
why not have express bid on the EAS routes that Mesa is bidding on from Springfield to MDW (and some other IL cities i believe)?
 
25,000? Did I hear that right? Have we forgot about a few zeros? I bid 26,000. Why don't we take up a collection and have the first airline run collectively by a message board.
 
poor ATA thier gonna be the next TWA..... I say start getting souviners because when they are gone they are gone! besides you never know what you could get on Ebay for something with ATA logos.
Although it may not be much if the certificate is only worth 25000
 
capt. megadeth said:
What's he planning on paying the crews for $30 tickets? $15,000 capt pay?

the sad part is your not that far off.

I hope they are able to work out a deal soon, whether it fails of not its worth a try. The other alternative is we are guarenteed to be out of a job on Mar 28 or sooner.
 
Although, if you are interested, Colgan is hiring Captians with Saab types and FO's with Saab experience. Rumor from someone there is that Saab 2000's are on the way. Plus rumor has it that Houston could become a large operation for them. I guess right now they are starting with 10 planes there March 1
 

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