Cherry Air slides one of the Runway

[WrightAvia]

Where did you guys get a braking action report at 4am? Seriously, was there a PIREP or something??? The FAA is calling this an incident, so it couldn't have been that bad.

Sorry, was just making a comment in general about braking action reports. Wasn't trying to start anything. Maybe later, my comment my be more relevent, maybe not. But it was not meant to deamean the pilots in that news article, nor was it to imply that I know details of this incident. (which I don't).

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

One question:

Did the pilots involved have degrees?

Im willing to bet they did.

Had they not wasted all that time in college they would have never slid off the end of the runway.

 

[falcondriver]

I've flown with the captain in the sim for my checkride and with the co pilot on numerous occasions into really bad weather. Both of the pilots are really sharp, well above standards. I think people like pilotyip should back off and wait and see what the cause of the accident really is.........
FD
Former Cherry Captain

 

[pilotyip]

Reflections of Curtis LeMay

When C. Lemay took over SAC in 1948, he reviewed all of the SAC accident reports. He found that most of the time when there was an accident, the Wing Commander always said this guy was one of the sharpest pilots in the outfit. He wondered why it was always the sharp pilots that crashed. The pilot who were not rated as sharp were not crashing as often. How come. He found the sharp pilots had a confidence that their skill could over come any thing that went wrong, so they did not need checklists, co-pilot telling them where they were, etc. The not so sharp pilots, did not have the confidence that they could fly the box it came in, and wanted everything possible going for them, use the checklist, fly profiles speeds, use the crew to assist you. So LeMay made all the SAC pilots including the sharp ones, fly like the not so sharp ones and the accident rate went down. Pilots are only a small part in accidnets happening, managment and their exercise of operational control is the real difference in a reduced accident rate.

 

[GoSpurs]

The info I got, (second hand)... No pirep for BAD rwy conditions. No sign of bad conditions in the previous five hours for the destination. Good wx at the time of landing. Hmmmmm how many pilots with this info given to them would not go?? I guess pilotyip wouldn't because he is super man.

 

[pilotyip]

Dispatcher Go Spurs?

The decision to go to or not to go to AOH that night was made by a licensed dispatcher in our flt following center. The flight crew was never involved in the decision to go to AOH or not, doesn't your dispatcher provide the same service for you?

 

[justApilot]

80for80..............now that's something to be proud of!

 

[pilotyip]

Welcome 80for80

Great first post. There was alot of insight in that tricky post, we look forward to more of your exciting commentary. R U a college grad? Not that you need to be to be a pilot, but your composition skills have been obviously polished in some institute of higher learning, one of those degrees that advances your aviation career by opening doors, PM Falcon Capt he knows all about that stuff.

 

[FR8dognit]

Pilotyip,
Looking back on some of your previous posts, you seem to bring a large amount of information into conversations that ussaully turns out to be incorrect and/or irrellevant. Speculation into a matter that you know nothing about tarnishes not only the person/persons you are talking about, but also hurts the credibility of yourself and makes the company you represent, USA Jet, look bad.

Both the captain and first officer that flew that trip are neither overconfident or smug when it comes to knowing their limitations or the limitations of the Falcon 20. I know this because I've flown with both guys for hundreds of hours over the past two years.

Think before you type PILOTYIP.

Cherry Captain

 

[GoSpurs]

Re: Dispatcher Go Spurs?

The decision to go to or not to go to AOH that night was made by a licensed dispatcher in our flt following center. The flight crew was never involved in the decision to go to AOH or not, doesn't your dispatcher provide the same service for you?

No. So what's your point? Things are better where you are? What a BIG suprise