Champion Air

[Draginass]

The bottom of the bottom feeders.

 

[V2plus25]

what could be better? porn in groundschool? where do I sign up?

 

[RJPilott]

Any improvements at Champion? I found this thread doing a search. I just recieved their FedEx package with application for interviewing for a June class. I checked over at airplinepilotpay.com for pay... its pretty low. I read that your contract was up May 05. Any progress with that? I have not taken my FE written. Are they hiring due to growth or because everyone is jumping ship? Im ex-Indy Air and was going to stay out of the biz for a while, but im starting to get "the shakes" and need to get back in the air. Any updated info on CA would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance...

 

[n5374f]

Any improvements at Champion? No improvements, managment is avoiding the bargining table and does not show up to negoiate, actually this is the same thing that happens if you try to enforce provisions in the current agreement. If it does not benefit managment and you don't do what you are told you get fired. The policy is fly now and grieve later. Later when you file a greivence they fight it tooth and nail.

Now lets discuss the pay, yes it is the lowest in the industry, but that is not the only problem, when you work overtime most of the time you are not paid for what you work, they have a payroll clerk that's sole job is to figure out ways not to pay you.

Also take a look at attrition out of all of the pilots hired post 9/11 around 24 pilots I think only 4 are left on the property the rest quit. The Chief pilot plays both sides of the fence and will try and wreck your career in order to get brownie points with management to advance his. Also the Chief Pilot takes bets with office personnel to see which planes will lose an engine. Do yourself a favor and stay far away

I read that your contract was up May 05. - The only way to get a fair contract at Champion is for a strike. The Basketball contract is up next year and the company is hoping the pilots are dumb enough to strike after the basketball contract is up so they can outsource all of the rest of the charter flights. Management will then try to starve the pilots out. The only thing that would hurt the company is a strike during basketball season.

Are they hiring due to growth or because everyone is jumping ship? - Hiring because everybody is jumping ship. If they had growth they would be in real trouble they can hardly get people to fill the slots when people quit. Most people quit before they have completed 14 months.

By the way I quit a few months back and went back to flying corprote. Tripled my pay when I left. And when you leave don't expect to get paid what you are owed. They decide what you are entilted to and you will wait months for your final check. And when you put in your notice don't expect to work out your last two weeks ethier.

The good thing about Champion air is that if you are desperate take the job till something better comes along because there is no training contract.

 

[RJPilott]

Thanks for the update n5374f. I had a feeling it might be like that. Thanks again....

 

[DC8-PFE]

Too bad it went that way

I'm one of the guys that started Champion Air from the remnants of MGM Grand. It's a shame the airline ended up as it did. Dick Page had such high hopes at the beginning. It really was a pretty cool place to work for in the early days.