CFI Military Competency

[Huggyu2]

The comment period for the NPRM to make it easier for military instructor pilots to get their CFI certificate has passed. Now what? If they decide to go though with this, how long will it take?
If you know these answers, please chime in.

 

[midlifeflyer]

There's no required schedule. If the FAA has one in mind, I haven't seen it.

Once the comment period is over, an agency can head right to the final rule, extend the comment period, or drop the whole thing. At times, the comments themselves raise questions and the agency writes a new proposed with a new comment period. Even if the agency goes straight to final rule, the wading through the comments and making changes and corrections, writing the final rule and the "Supplemental Information" (explanation and commentary) that goes along with it takes time and may give way to other priorities.

 

[Huggyu2]

Thank you.
I went through the changes being proposed: it's a pretty long list. And I suppose that means lots of time weigh it.

 

[AC560]

Thank you.
I went through the changes being proposed: it's a pretty long list. And I suppose that means lots of time weigh it.

Well when you get yours if you don't have it already you can give me my high altitude endorsement.

 

[Razor_B]

This is from another message board:

John Lynch is the POC.

I wrote to Mr. Lynch this mornining, his response below:

The comment period closed on the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on May 8.
The rulemaking team is reviewing the comments and have begun drafting the
final rule. To date, we have not established a time schedule for issuing
the final rule, but the plans are for a November 2007 issuance timeframe
for the final rule. Normally, the rule becomes effective within 30 days
after the issuance date. The majority of the comments have been positive
for the military flight instructor proposal.


John D. Lynch
AFS-810
(202) 267-3844

 

[nosehair]

What is that proposal? I haven't heard / read anything in CFI military comp.

 

[Mud Eagle]

Here is a thread from another forum about it:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/showthread.php?t=9606

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

The problem with this rule change will be that while the military instructor pilots can teach (no doubt) this is only about half of what a civilian CFI must have knowledge of. For example: Mastery of part 61 is the most important thing as far as keeping your students legal as well as qualifying them for solo and solo X-C, as well as qualifying them and endorsing their students for their flight tests. Military pilots unfortunately have no knowledge of these areas of pilot certification or of the PTS, the Airplane Flying Handbook, or the many AC's that pilots are held responsible for.

 

[Huggyu2]

The problem with this rule change will be that while the military instructor pilots can teach (no doubt) this is only about half of what a civilian CFI must have knowledge of. For example: Mastery of part 61 is the most important thing as far as keeping your students legal as well as qualifying them for solo and solo X-C, as well as qualifying them and endorsing their students for their flight tests. Military pilots unfortunately have no knowledge of these areas of pilot certification or of the PTS, the Airplane Flying Handbook, or the many AC's that pilots are held responsible for.

This is true with many pilots. However, those that plan to pursue instructing new pilots for their PPL will spend the time to learn those intricacies before they sign their name to a legal document. Just like a 22 year old civilian pilot that runs through Sheble's quick-and-dirty CFI checkout.
All of my friends that want their CFI have no intent to do this, with the exception of teaching their kids to fly.
For me, I would like it because it is a credential that I need to open some other aviation avenues I'm pursuing.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

This is true with many pilots. However, those that plan to pursue instructing new pilots for their PPL will spend the time to learn those intricacies before they sign their name to a legal document. Just like a 22 year old civilian pilot that runs through Sheble's quick-and-dirty CFI checkout.
All of my friends that want their CFI have no intent to do this, with the exception of teaching their kids to fly.
For me, I would like it because it is a credential that I need to open some other aviation avenues I'm pursuing.

I am sure you have heard the expression, "A little knowledge is dangerous." That is the case here except it is most dangerous to the military IP/civilian CFI converts. I am not concerned about the safely of the new CFI's students, mostly my concern is for the FAA certificates of the newly converted CFI. As far as the FAA is concerned one "Oh $hit" is not off-set by any number of "at-a-boys," including any number of air medals. One mistake and the FAA will come after a CFI with full force including certificate action (suspension or revocation). Trust me, there is much complexity to civilian certification and while I fully support some type of an easy conversion for military flight instructors to civilian, I do believe that at least an in depth oral test is necessary for the instructors sake. And as you look at the motivation of your statements, "All of my friends that want their CFI have no intent to do this (teach flying), with the exception of teaching their kids to fly. For me, I would like it because it is a credential that I need to open some other aviation avenues I'm pursuing. The question must then be: Why even get the CFI if you feel you would really not be qualified to use it. And if you're really not qualified to use it, I would think that the last students you would want is your own children. The FAA certified CFI is not for just teaching people to fly, his or her job is getting them properly certified. If you want to just let your kids fly a little and move the controls, you don't need a CFI certificate for that. FYI: I know of a well established CFI who was generally speaking in good stead with the FAA office, he made one mistake on an endorsement and the FAA came after him. The CFI thought it was just a misunderstanding. The result: A one year revocation of all pilot and instructor certificates.