Cessna Super X

[justwatching]

NetJets is phasing out the CX. Don't know what they are going to do, but companies that depend on them for that a/c type are going to be in an interesting predicament. This is fueled by Cessna not wanting to give Daddy Buffet a good deal on the X's.

 

[void]

Three and a half months to the NBAA convention. I'd wager on some kind of an announcement there.

 

[NJAowner]

If it is a $$ issue, Cessna (Textron) can not afford to lose NJA as a customer. I would wait for an announcement.

The speed is more of an ego thing for a NJA owner, who only flies a little. A businessman who owns an X and flies 3-5 days a week appreciated the speed much more. Since Gulfstream lowered the price of the G-200 to NJA a few years ago (making it the same price as a share of an X), the G-200 has been trouncing the X in sales. Can not compare the cabins, etc. Yes, some of you will post ofd dispatch reliability, etc., but that is a much bigger issue for someone who owns an entire plane than an NJA shareowner. The fact is that for a TEB-PBI flight, the G-200 is only a few minutes smaller and much more comfortable. Most NJA owners do not go coast to coast often enough to appreciate the speed differential.

Fly safe.

 

[Pervis]

Poor dispatch rates on the X are no longer the issue. The X maintains an average of 75% availability, equal to and better than some in the NJA fleet. This is from the Mobile Manager site available to the crews which lists all a/c in the fleet on a daily basis. We have two more deliveries scheduled, and then who knows. I can't believe NJA will discontinue such a popular jet, unless a replacement with similar capabilities is in the works.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Poor dispatch rates on the X are no longer the issue. The X maintains an average of 75% availability, equal to and better than some in the NJA fleet. This is from the Mobile Manager site available to the crews which lists all a/c in the fleet on a daily basis. We have two more deliveries scheduled, and then who knows. I can't believe NJA will discontinue such a popular jet, unless a replacement with similar capabilities is in the works.

Enter: The H-4000.

Will it live up to the legend? Time will tell...

 

[paulsalem]

Is the 4,000 .92?

 

[jtf]

Will the 4000 ever get certified? Will it meet it's promised specs or possibly get cancelled like the G-150s? I believe the promised max speed is only .84. Time will tell... The X is still a damn sexy beast and it is still the fastest thing out there. I hope it gets an update and NJ gets it so I can fly it some time in the future.

 

[gunfyter]

Let's ust get More Falcons. 370/.86

 

[TurboJetCpt]

it will be the FIRST commercial supersonic bizjet...just watch

 

[paulsalem]

Let's ust get More Falcons. 370/.86

mmmm Falcon 7x

 

[jtf]

I've seen that they have at least tested the 7X to .93M, but I don't know what the max speed they will certify it for will be. I would definitely like to see those on property. By the time I'm senior enough to hold them we might still have a couple left before they are all sold off and replaced with something even better- 10 to 15 years from now.

 

[FLYLOW22]

I've seen that they have at least tested the 7X to .93M, but I don't know what the max speed they will certify it for will be. I would definitely like to see those on property. By the time I'm senior enough to hold them we might still have a couple left before they are all sold off and replaced with something even better- 10 to 15 years from now.

The X was tested to 1.2 or 1.3 and is Mmo'd to .92.

I think the flight test speed for Mmo is equal to 1.3 times the desired Mmo.

 

[On Your Six]

Will the 4000 ever get certified? Will it meet it's promised specs or possibly get cancelled like the G-150s? I believe the promised max speed is only .84. Time will tell... The X is still a dang sexy beast and it is still the fastest thing out there. I hope it gets an update and NJ gets it so I can fly it some time in the future.

Sorry for not keeping up with the news, but was the NJA G-150 order officially cancelled?

Also, when are the 4000s "estimated" to arrive for NJA? I understand it is still working out the certification.

 

[jtf]

The main man claims the G-150s are cancelled, but others say differently. It is a performance dog and unless Gulfstream comes up with an aweful sweet deal I don't see it happening. The 4000 captain bids were recently removed from the bid system since the airplane just can't seem to get over the certification hurdle and we won't be getting any this year. Hopefully early in 07, but nobody knows right now. The 4000 specs don't really make it seem like a reasonable (x-country speed wise) replacement for the X, but it does look like a nice airplane.

 

[Just Peachy]

Hey Njaowner....

I see u have a lot of listed aircraft flown, (these are type ratings??)........

Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 263
Civ/Mil: Civ.
A/C Flown: B-747,B-707,B-727, B-737, B-757, B-767,B-777, A-300, A-320, DC-3, DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, MD-11, MD-80, Emb130, Emb145, CE-560, CE-560XL, CE-650, CE-750, G-200, G-IV, G-V, HS-125, BE-400XP, Lr-JET, L-1011
Ratings: Passenger

......But I dont see P-51 listed, and thats a REAL mans plane.