Cessna 414 Question

[Way2Broke]

Does anyone know what altitude the C-414 is certified too? I was wondering if it required a high altitude endorsement.

 

[A Squared]

Does anyone know what altitude the C-414 is certified too?

33,000 ft or 35,000 ft, depending on serial number (edit, disregard, I though you wrote 441)

I was wondering if it required a high altitude endorsement.

yes

 

[tracearabians]

If you are full of fuel and more than one pax you will never get high enough to require an endorsement.

Does anyone know what altitude the C-414 is certified too? I was wondering if it required a high altitude endorsement.

 

[bocefus]

depends on which O2 system, 25k for one, and hahaha, 30k for the big one, it'll only get to 30K if caught in a boomer.

 

[flyboyzz1]

If you are full of fuel and more than one pax you will never get high enough to require an endorsement.

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Im sure you were kidding but I think its if the airplane has a service ceil. of about 250

 

[agpilot34]

No, he's not kidding at all. With full fuel and a load, the 414 wont make it's service ceiling, period. Now a 421 with a RAM conversion, that's another story!

 

[flyboyike]

The 414 is a pressurized airplane and, as such, requires a high-alt. See 61.31(g).

 

[MauleSkinner]

If I recall correctly, the 414 is certificated to 30,000 feet...

The 414 is a pressurized airplane and, as such, requires a high-alt. See 61.31(g).

You might doublecheck the reg, flyboyike...the endorsement is only required if the airplane is certificated ABOVE 25,000 feet.

...no person may act as pilot in command of a pressurized aircraft (an aircraft that has a service ceiling or maximum operating altitude, whichever is lower, above 25,000 feet MSL)...

Fly safe!

David

 

[flyboyike]

You might doublecheck the reg, flyboyike...the endorsement is only required if the airplane is certificated ABOVE 25,000 feet.

I did. The reg states a pressurized aircraft (an aircraft that has a service ceiling or maximum operating altitude, whichever is lower, above 25,000 feet MSL). I've gone as far as to ask my local FSDO whether the use of the parenthesis in this case means an and/or situation or an i. e. situation. For example, I asked, would an aircraft that has a ceiling of greater than 25K but is NOT pressurized need the endorsement? What about one that is pressurized but is certified to only 24K?

The answer from the MSP FSDO was that this was an either/or thing. If it's pressurized you need the endorsement and if it's over 25K you need the endorsement. It need not be both.

 

[bocefus]

And believe it or not, FSDOs around the country are pretty consistant with that interpretation. A pilot of a C-T210M, although not a pressurized aircraft would require a high altitude endorsement.