Censorship and the Moderators

[skootertrash]

I just noticed the "penalty box"

Now tell me why is there such censorship? I understand racist remarks and what not, but why the scab list? What did Turbo7 threaten to sue? The scab list is a part of our industry. These people are scum of the earth. So why is posting a link to a scab list innapropriate here?

 

[Bluto]

Bottom line, this is a privately owned board. The owner can impose whatever restrictions he wants. Censorship and freedom of speech discussions really are immaterial. Having said that, I feel that the moderators are quite reasonable in what they choose to remove and what they allow to stay.

 

[skootertrash]

But they won't allow a link to a scab list? I think they must somehow condone what the SCABS have done/

 

[pilotyip]

Define SCAB?

This has been beat to death many times over on this sight. We all agree the guys who crossed the line the first time in 1989 at EAL probably fit the definition. What about the EAL pilots who came back after the initial walkout in early 1990, do they fit? How about the CAL new hires in 1988, after ALPA pulled the picket lines down, do they fit the definition?

 

[ThomasR]

What is the "penalty box?" Is the term scab a labor union term? What is it that you think scabs have done to make them scum of the earth in YOUR view. A list of scabs is useless until you know what the list represents. Lets start a list of "cobians" and we will put your name at the top. It isn´t censorship it is just confusing.

 

[banned username 2]

I just noticed the "penalty box"

Now tell me why is there such censorship? I understand racist remarks and what not, but why the scab list? What did Turbo7 threaten to sue? The scab list is a part of our industry. These people are scum of the earth. So why is posting a link to a scab list innapropriate here?

Yeah, its only been around a month or more... welcome back... This topic already was beat to death and then laid to rest in another thread, do a search...

 

[wingnutt]

oh good grief....an internet message board is not the medium to be declaring rights of "free speech". it dosent matter the topic. this is a private board in which everyone that posts here has a username. guess what you had to agree to when you got that user name? thats right ladies and gentlemen, rules and regulations. go back and read em, ill guarantee there is a clause in which the moderators have full reign on what is allowed or disallowed...dont like it? go start your own message board

 

[Lucky]

well since the powers that be are afraid to let the scab list be linked on here, can someone please email it or send me a messege with the link??

Thanks

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

well since the powers that be are afraid to let the scab list be linked on here, can someone please email it or send me a messege with the link??

Thanks

Yep, better make sure one of those darn scabs don't try to hitch a jumpseat ride on your Katana.

 

[Lucky]

what, just because you have 5000 some odd hours, I'm not allowed to see something out of curiosity? I'd just like to see what the hype is all about. Lemme guess your a scab or at the least a Kerry supporter. Get a life

 

[Sniper Bob]

what, just because you have 5000 some odd hours, I'm not allowed to see something out of curiosity? I'd just like to see what the hype is all about. Lemme guess your a scab or at the least a Kerry supporter. Get a life

Hmmm. Labor usually sides with the democrats and management with the republicans. A 'scab' is usually siding with management, therefore the republicans. Hence, a 'scab' would be a Bush supporter.

The 'Scab List' is just a very uninteresting list of names. Unless you are looking for your dad or uncle's name, there is no reason for you to have it.

 

[Lucky]

right, there is no real reason to have it, just curious why everyone is so afraid to let it surface for. Theres no reason not to have it either.

 

[Sniper Bob]

right, there is no real reason to have it, just curious why everyone is so afraid to let it surface for. Theres no reason not to have it either.

I think there might be a few guys who frequent this board on the list.

 

[FarginDooshbahg]

I'd just like to see what the hype is all about. Lemme guess your a scab or at the least a Kerry supporter.

Sorry to burst your bubble gum bubble there, Jr...but I am neither. When you grow up, then come on back and we'll talk.

 

[AcroChik]

What Is A Scab?

A scab is not someone who sides with management, but someone who is siding with their perceived self~interest, or their stomach.

Historically, during periods of labor over~supply or job under~supply, "scabs" are those willing to cross pickett lines or agree to working wages and conditions that other workers will not. It is understood that such behavior will provoke some ill will.

That some are willing to be scabs tends to drive down wages and promote deterioration of working conditions. While this tends to benefit management, one could not call substandard wages and dangerous work environments truly beneficial to anyone in the long~term.

I read on the NetJets threads that some FOs with children ~ during a period of labor over~supply ~ currently qualify for food stamps. Since pilots are a very conservative group, over~all, how many of those men and women do you think voted for John Kerry?

Personally, I think the macho political name~calling some of you "dudes" engage in is ludicrous in the extreme and makes you sound like bratty little boys. Go ahead, studs, flame away.


Regarding this forum in general, I've had the pleasure of reading some real aviation wisdom in these threads, and think the operation is very well run. It makes sense for the operators to have a "time out corner," for kids that have tantrums.

 

[wingnutt]

oh thats nice skooter, guy sends you a PM (PRIVATE message), and you post it up for all to see...real touch of class you got there

 

[TonyC]

oh thats nice skooter, guy sends you a PM (PRIVATE message), and you post it up for all to see...real touch of class you got there

It didn't take long for that post to get yanked.

While it was there it provided some interesting insight. While I can understand the insistance against posting scab lists, I vehemently disagree that scabbing is no different or no worse than PFTing. I say this at the risk of being censored myself. If we are to be fair about the subject, shouldn't we avoid the topic altogether? It doesn't seem quite right that opponents of scabs must remain silent, while others, including the Webmaster, offer tacit, if not blatant, support for the practice.

 

[Daveman]

Scab?

The word really makes no sense as it is used in this fashion. A scab is protective skin over a healing wound. If it weren't for scabs we would be walking around with open sores on our bodies.

Here are some suggestions that make a little more sense:
Tapeworm
maggott
cockroach
and my fav. hemorrhoid.
Hey Petey, can ya send me over that hemorrhoid list. I got a fellow I might hire but, I think he was a hemrrohiod for XYZ AIR.

 

[skootertrash]

Ya gotta love someone who cannot handle a difference in opinions. So ya don't like what I have to say....just erase it hu webmaster?



Hey webmaster, you are a real piece of work. I have a hard time believing you wouldn't be a scab. But then again you would have to understand the concept of airline labor. By the profile I can see you've never flown for an airline. Thats fine, the corporate world is different. But do they stab each other in the back to get ahead? Do they disregard the welfare of their fellow pilots so that they keep a job? I don't think so.



But if thats the way it's done I stand corrected. The problem is airlines have a seniority based system. And we stand together for the common good. When someone scabs they are spitting in the face of that principal. The scab list is so there is accountability. Without accountability there are no checks and balances. With the list you always know who is willing to disregard you and your family for their own gain.



Webmaster, I hope someday a scab takes your job.

 

[Lrjtcaptain]

I posted the scab list last summer when people on this board were looking for it. I must have been grandfathered in on that cause I never got put in the box and I think the link is still on this board.

 

[AA717driver]

skooter--Chill out dude! If you post a scab list, the owners can get sued. You want to put YOUR house on the line, be my guest.

I think the moderators are pretty cool--look at all the trashy avatars they let us have. TC

 

[Freddie Spencer]

The reason i got put in sin bin the second time was for calling TERRORISTS (the ones that kill our soldiers in Iraq) sand-europeans (sort of, just exchange europe with a continent south of Spain and you get the picture.... it rhymes with "effrikans"). The first time I called them sand-tegros.... if you think that is a racist remark, then I assume you are not with us, which means you are against us ...

 

[Daveman]

The reason i got put in sin bin the second time was for calling TERRORISTS (the ones that kill our soldiers in Iraq) sand-europeans (sort of, just exchange europe with a continent south of Spain and you get the picture.... it rhymes with "effrikans"). The first time I called them sand-tegros.... if you think that is a racist remark, then I assume you are not with us, which means you are against us ...

Speaking of aviatars, I've seen your's somewhere before. I wish I could remember where!

 

[PHX767]

I don't see what the big deal is

I typed "scab list" on google and got a lot of choices to pick from.

I agree that racist, derogatory, sexist, etc. terms should not be used, but don't see the harm in linking to a scab list.

Then again, as has been reiterated this is a private board. Play by the rules as established or buh bye.

 

[ThomasR]

Hey YOU scabs

I think I am starting to get it..................A scab is someone who works for less than you think he should be working for and taking away a job that maybe you might like to have. Sooooooooo you call this guy a scab to get others to shun him for wanting to work for less than you do. Let me see, some Delta pilots make six million a year in American dollars, that makes YOU all scabs in their eyes. Now lets see that list.

And the proper term when referring to mid eastern scabs is "whoops, I too stepped across the "racist verbiage" line and am now banned for two days."

 

[BigMoney]

I think I am starting to get it..................A scab is someone who works for less than you think he should be working for and taking away a job that maybe you might like to have. Sooooooooo you call this guy a scab to get others to shun him for wanting to work for less than you do. Let me see, some Delta pilots make six million a year in American dollars, that makes YOU all scabs in their eyes. Now lets see that list.

And the proper term when referring to mid eastern scabs is "silicon nigerians."

In labor, term scab is well defined. A scab is one who crosses a picket line and works during a time that the rightful workers are out on strike.

oh, and you're a racist pig

craps