CE750 at NJA

[pdub20s]

What are the chances of getting into the right seat of the CJX appon getting hired?

 

[pdub20s]

Damn the 560 is popular

 

[A.W.E.S.O.M-O]

I did the sim first starting on 11-27-06 on the 560E, but don't go to Indoc till Monday Jan 8th. Why wouldn't I see my # on the list or any other of the three people that were doing the sim first starting on 11-27-06 ???

 

[flyfish]

Your official date of hire is the first day of indoc. Those dates are their dates of hire.

 

[CA1900]

Flyfish, that's incorrect -- per the contract, "A pilot shall be
considered as first employed on the date he first reports to any Company required training event at the direction of the Company." Sim training fits that description.

AWESOM-O, I wouldn't panic yet, as a new seniority list should be out any time now. If you're not on it by then, ask your indoc instructor who to talk to about it, because your date of hire should indeed be 11-27-06. We had several folks in my indoc who had done sim first, and they're all senior to me because their DOH was their sim start date.

I'll check for ya as soon as the new list's out, and drop you a note.

 

[Guitar Guy]

What are the chances of getting into the right seat of the CJX appon getting hired?

What's a "CJX" - a CitationJet 10? I know they make a CJ1, CJ2 and CJ3 and that the CJ4 is on the drawing boards but I haven't heard of a CJ10.

Just kidding, pdub.

As for getting the Citation X, it depends on what openings are available at the time of the job offer as well as your flying background. Most of the people that I know of that got the X had quite a bit of jet time, usually in something bigger than 500-series Citations. That said, I know of about 2 or 3 guys who came from turboprop-only backgrounds who got the X but they were sort of test cases from what those guys told me.

 

[flyfish]

Flyfish, that's incorrect -- per the contract, "A pilot shall be
considered as first employed on the date he first reports to any Company required training event at the direction of the Company." Sim training fits that description.

Old knowledge is hard to break. I stand corrected.:smash:

 

[pdub20s]

What's a "CJX" - a CitationJet 10? I know they make a CJ1, CJ2 and CJ3 and that the CJ4 is on the drawing boards but I haven't heard of a CJ10.

Just kidding, pdub.

As for getting the Citation X, it depends on what openings are available at the time of the job offer as well as your flying background. Most of the people that I know of that got the X had quite a bit of jet time, usually in something bigger than 500-series Citations. That said, I know of about 2 or 3 guys who came from turboprop-only backgrounds who got the X but they were sort of test cases from what those guys told me.

what if I were you come out of a EMJ at a regional?

 

[Guitar Guy]

what if I were you come out of a EMJ at a regional?

Probably better than if you were a turboprop-only kind of guy. But that said, it really depends a lot on what's available when the offer is made (and not necessarily what they tell you is open during the interview.) I know of retired 121 guys with lots of "big jet" time who came here and got the Ultra, Encore or 400XP just because of timing.

It might be possible to try to request a different fleet when a job offer is made if they don't give you what you want. But be aware, there is a lot to consider in doing that. A later start date moves you down the seniority list. A bigger plane does not necessarily equate to a bigger paycheck for FO's: the only larger planes that we have that pay more for an FO due to size are the 2000EX/EASy and the BBJ. In fact, out of all the Cessna products, the XL/XLS pays more for FO's: an extra $225 per month for aircraft differences. And also think about upgrade. If you want to move to PIC as fast as possible, you'll likely be upgrading in the smallest jets like the Encore or 400XP for that initial upgrade. It's nice to already know the plane you are upgrading in.

My advice is to first of all, get the job offer. Then, unless you have some sort of side job lined up in an X, accept whatever plane gets you on the seniority list the quickest.

 

[Diesel]

NJA Bound-You probably really want to edit your post to not show union or company information on a public website.

 

[Abbey]

There is only one reason you get the plane you get.....You were needed to fill a vacancy. Just remember, it's still a Cessna.

 

[FO4life]

If the paycheck is the same amount and clears just the same who cares. shoot, I would fly a kite if you paid me.

 

[APFPilot]

NJA Bound-You probably really want to edit your post to not show union or company information on a public website.

I don't know if you are aware but the entire contract is available online without a password on the IBT site.

 

[Diesel]

Yeah i'm aware.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I don't know if you are aware but the entire contract is available online without a password on the IBT site.

What NJA bound posted isn't part of the contract, as you could probably tell.

 

[acaTerry]

What are the chances of getting into the right seat of the CJX appon getting hired?

The bigger question is: WHY would you want to do THAT to yourself?

BTW...it's spelled "upon" not "appon"....I hope NJA gets a spelling test...:beer:

 

[pdub20s]

The bigger question is: WHY would you want to do THAT to yourself?

BTW...it's spelled "upon" not "appon"....I hope NJA gets a spelling test...:beer:

Har har har...whats wrong with the 750?

 

[CA1900]

Har har har...whats wrong with the 750?

Well, it has a certain reputation at NJA:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4940/motivator5557294aa9.jpg

 

[sweptwingz]

And that image is accurate, although it used to be slighty worse than it is now.

 

[acaTerry]

Well, it has a certain reputation at NJA:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4940/motivator5557294aa9.jpg

I couldn't have said it better myself, and BTW, that was DARN FUNNY!