CE-560 type rating

[freightrash]

Where is the cheapest place?
Thanks in advance ^^

 

[2000flyer]

Where is the cheapest place?
Thanks in advance ^^

There are still company's out there that offer a CE500 type rating (good for the CE560) that are "cheap". For simulator training, SIMCOM is one of the least expensive but I believe they use a C550 sim with a 560 differences in ground school. SimuFlite is next followed by FSI. However, you can sometimes negociate your rates.

However, when it comes to "cheap," remember the old addage: You get what you pay for! I was in recurrent several years ago with a relatively new captain who got his type at "Cheap Charlies Citation Type" six months prior. The questions he asked in ground made it clear the 3-day course he took didn't teach him squat!

2000Flyer

 

[bafanguy]

2000flyer,


If a person like you mentioned is obviously "undertrained", how did he get a type rating in the airplane to start with ?

 

[Otter]

bafanguy,

It is no secret that many of the "small" type training programs out there have an ability to get applicants through with a knowledge level below what most professional pilots would expect or require as satisfactory knowledge to operate the aircraft. They are often associated with a single DPE that solely gives rides for them and the entire evolution from beginning to end is very scripted. The key here, is the DPE and the school both understand what the minimum requirement is, and they train and test to it.

IMHO, while testing must identify the minimum requirement, training is not something that needs to strive to merely achieve the minimum. I believe that may have been his point.

The response is in no way meant to flame, but for those of us who have had the pleasure of getting seated next to someone who is woefully undertrained, the cockpit becomes a less than ideal or safe environment. Again, just MHO.

 

[bafanguy]

Otter,


Thanks, I see...

 

[2000flyer]

2000flyer,


If a person like you mentioned is obviously "undertrained", how did he get a type rating in the airplane to start with ?

Bafanguy,

I'm not sure how this guy got through but a good friend of mine went through one of those programs about 8 years ago. It ended up being a weekend course and during the ride the examiner sat on the barrel seat behind the right seat. As he was "checking the boxes" he noticed something missing and asked to see it performed. The IP said "it's done, go ahead and check that off" and poof...done checkride, new type rating. That night the IP asked if he wanted to fly to a very large gambling town in the southwest for dinner , which they did. Afterwards, after sitting at the FBO for over an hour my friend asked when they were leaving. The IP said when our passengers arrive. Ahhhhhhh, the light bulb came on....it was a 135 trip and my friend was now an acting SIC! Well, to make a short story shorter, the FBO van drove him over to the terminal where he returned home, still with fresh type in hand.

Now, that being said, not all operators do this. I'd dare say most do NOT. However, when you're out there looking for the "cheapest" you'd best be advised to do some deep homework before plopping down your hard earned cash!

2000Flyer

 

[bafanguy]

2000,


...I see...