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CBT/Self-study systems training for B200 and B58?

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Snakum

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I've found only two sources of CBT or paper-based systems training on these two airframes online, one of which was very good (the CTS PC-based courses) and one which appeared to just be a couple factory manuals.

I've made copies of the Simuflite checklists and the Raytheon normal procedures and perf figures, and that has been a big help. But as soon as I finish the comm/ME (so I can start logging Sole Manip) I want to do something a lot more in-depth, to learn as much as I can digest on both aircraft and also so I can be as much of a help as possible to the boss, and not just a hindrance. :D

Anyone else have ideas for cost-effective systems training on the B200 and B58?

As always 'Thanks!' ... and I'll remember you in my will.

Minhommad the Mad Muslim Camel Doctor
 
Snakum said:
(so I can start logging Sole Manip)

Be careful here. While legal to do it can bite you. I've got about 75 hours or so PIC in an SA-226. Was I sole manip? Yes. Was it agreed that I was PIC? Yes. Was it a stupid thing to do? Yes. It was when I was young and I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now I'm embarrassed about it. While technically ok, it makes me look like an idiot. To each his own, but I just thought I'd throw a counter-point at you. The BE-200 is also a single pilot airplane and when you start logging PIC time with 200 hours in your logbook you may later on regret it.
 
I wonder, why is that??



rumpletumbler said:
Be careful here. While legal to do it can bite you. I've got about 75 hours or so PIC in an SA-226. Was I sole manip? Yes. Was it agreed that I was PIC? Yes. Was it a stupid thing to do? Yes. It was when I was young and I didn't think anything of it at the time, but now I'm embarrassed about it. While technically ok, it makes me look like an idiot. To each his own, but I just thought I'd throw a counter-point at you. The BE-200 is also a single pilot airplane and when you start logging PIC time with 200 hours in your logbook you may later on regret it.

I mean, why does it make you look like an idiot? I would think you were fortunate that you were in a position where you could do that. I don't understand the regret part.
 
sky37d said:
I mean, why does it make you look like an idiot? I would think you were fortunate that you were in a position where you could do that. I don't understand the regret part.

I was fortunate and I enjoyed it very much. There are a lot of folks out there who look down on it though and I'm not sure it didn't hurt me to log it more than it helped me. I'll find out when I get to the point of interviewing.
 
I won't get into another discussion of logging. I've printed off seventeen pages of threads on it, I have talked to the GSO FSDO, and I've asked three interviewing Captains at the kinds of companies I want to work for. I'm going to log it as soon as I'm rated to do so. Period. And I'm going to know the aircraft like I know my own d$@& when I'm asked about it. Hence ...

... back to the question at hand: anyone know who it was that used to sell B200 systems CDs? I had a linkee but I can't find it via Google anymore.

I have the Raytheon manual, but I really will need a good systems training method in order to know the B220/58 as well as I know Witchita's finest Spam Cans. :D

Minhberg
 
Rumple ... I should have metioned that the Chief Pilot/Department Manager at what I desperately hope is my next opportunity has also encouraged me to log it once properly rated. That probably makes my situation different from most. It's one less question mark to worry about. :)

Minh
 
Snakum said:
Rumple ... I should have metioned that the Chief Pilot/Department Manager at what I desperately hope is my next opportunity has also encouraged me to log it once properly rated. That probably makes my situation different from most. It's one less question mark to worry about. :)

Minh

I wasn't trying to tell you what to do, only to say what I'd experienced. As always....your mileage may vary. Its only a big deal if somebody makes it one.
 
I wasn't trying to tell you what to do,
Oh I know, man. I was just trying to clarify why I am confident about logging it. :) I consider myself VERY fortunate to have been given the opportunity to learn so much so soon, and to have an opportunity to, hopefully, at least interview (no guarantees)waiting when I have my ratings and a lot more time in the books.

If I was gonna apply to a regional, though, I'd probably only log a few hours of dual received, because I have heard the stories about XJet slamming guys for logging anything in an SP-certified aircraft, even if one had an FAA-administered Part 135 SIC checkride in a CJ. Which is rather odd, in my admittedly uneducated newbie opinion, considering I know people who went to Chautauqua, Comair, ASA (class cancelled right after 9/11, though), Shuttle America, and NetJets with a lot, or in some cases the majority, of their multi time being right seat King Air time. :eek:

Minhberg

BTW ... how's everything working out for you, r.e. the new job situation? Are you going to be able to continue to instruct at least part-time? Any leads on a right seat for you down there?
 
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rumpletumbler said:
I was fortunate and I enjoyed it very much. There are a lot of folks out there who look down on it though and I'm not sure it didn't hurt me to log it more than it helped me. I'll find out when I get to the point of interviewing.

Ah, it's the interview thing.
When I was at 130hrs, I got my ME, but didn't have my Inst. Every hour since then has been ME. Got the IFR thing quickly, so I'm MEI, but if I could have afforded it, an SA226 would have been in the hangar. Right away. Maybe a BE200, but I like the looks of the SA226. Oh, wait, where's my lottery ticket:) :cool:

Oh, never mind, didn't win again.

Okay, thanks.
OH WAIT, POST EQUAL TIME!!, Actually, I need to update the time thing, but still

POST = TIME
 
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