CASS & European Carriers

[Sasquatch1]

I am heading to Bosnia and Croatia in June and need some info on jumpseating in Europe. I have heard conflicting reports on whether or not we can ride in the actual or not on international flights. I am hoping that CASS is in full effect for UAL or Lufthansa. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[mar]

Sorry. Bigfoot = no ride.

You might want to do a little search on CASS. There's quite a bit on this forum.

Basically, CASS (cockpit access) is only allowed on domestic (U.S.) flights.

But you *may* jumpseat on a CASS approved carrier (e.g. UAL) on international flights *but* you won't be able to occupy the cockpit jumpseat (i.e. you must ride in the back, so a seat must be available).

European airlines do *not* permit any sort of jumpseating (not even to their own pilots), so Lufthansa is out of the question.

If I were you, I'd probably jumpseat to Milan (MXP) and then buy a ticket on one of the regional airlines....

...or just take the train.

 

[Sunnfun]

European airlines do *not* permit any sort of jumpseating (not even to their own pilots), so Lufthansa is out of the question

That is not entirely correct. I have a friend working at Lufthansa and he flies all the time on StarAlliance Carriers. They have to list through an internal computer system and are basically treated as standbys. So they have to have a seat available. It's basically the same as offline jumpseating in the US, only it's restricted to their employees. If you work for a Star Alliance Carrier, they should be abe to reciprocate. Ask the JS Coordinator.

Hope that helps.

 

[dash8driver]

since jumpseating will only not get you all the way to croatia, get some zed tickets to get you the rest of the way. they are also good to have as backup on the other parts of the trip that you are able to jumpseat on.





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[gringo]

There is a so-called Lufthansa "jumpseat pass", which costs somewhere around $30, but I've never been able to find a gate agent who knew what it was, although a buddy of mine at Comair swears by them.

All I know is thaty he went through the Delta International gate agents to purchase it. Was a hassle, but he did it multiple times.

SOME european airlines have jumpseat agreements- I could have jumped on LUXair if I had stayed with my previous carrier, but not with my current cargo carrier.

Not everyone has access to ZED rates, either. While at DCI, fer instance, I couldn't ZED myself to Belize (before they started flying there) on American, but had I worked for Continental, I could have.

Another option would be to get to Frankfurt or somewhere close, then rail it to Croatia. I rode eastern Europe's rails back in summer 2000, and it was great- cheap, quick and efficient.

Also, for instance, I do remember that as a DCI pilot, we were allowed to fly in back of South African and Air Morrocco (or whatever)- I'd check with your company jumpseat rep and see what kind of options you have. They do exist.

Have fun in Croatia!