cargo and checks at night, oh my !?

[tathepilot]

thanks for the info

 

[roughneck]

If someone suggests that you can fly a broken airplane (they won't ask or tell you to, they know better) all you have to do is politely decline and they'll send someone to fix it.

No, they will just send someone with less backbone to fly the trip anyway. Then if they crash, they will try and blame pilot error or as a last resort they will blame someone else.

Watch out and be very careful.

 

[amfteamster]

I've heard most of our recent incidents have been pilot issues (hit cones, hard landing, cargo door open in flt). People just aren't paying attention. .

The requirement for recurrent training is there for a reason. How AMF snuck their recurrent program by the FEDS is beyond me. A multiple choice packet sent out once a year followed by a check ride with no real "recurrent training" so to speak at all? I guess its cheap and easy. So is brushing blame off on pilot error.

You'd be better off asking some 600 hr CFI to give you recurrent rather than relying on their dog and pony show.

 

[starchkr]

Didn't really want to get in on this thread again after it turned into a he said she said bashing or praising of AMF, but i had too when i saw somebody say they have never heard of any engines quitting. I know for a fact that last week you had a plane shut one down going into MSY out of DAL/DFW. Plain and simple, he said he shut the left down and would wait to declare an emergency with approach going into MSY. So there is one.

Other than that, this has kinda taken a turn away from the original post, and to tell you the truth, i don't think any of us care about this hijack that much. Hey, we all have to shut one down at some time...big deal, they fly fine with one. I have shut shut one down, and what do ya know, i am still around and it was a non event. BIG DEAL. Let's get off of AMF and try to answer the "retarts" question.

 

[NLflyer]

Opinion

It's hard to find info on a company, flight school, etc. because your always going to get the guys who like it and the guys who don't. You won't often get a consencus! I think a lot of it depends on your attitude. I personally enjoy working at Ameriflight. But I don't have unrealistic expectations. I am flying 135 cargo... with that I expect old airplanes, inconvenient schedule, and low pay. On the flip side, the airplanes are maintained well (at my base), it's a professional airline style organization, there's a paycheck everyother week, good health benefits, and the company has been around for 35 years. There are more positives than negatives at AMF, try comparing it to most other 135 organizations. Just remember, It's a stepping stone just like flight instructing and they even tell you in groundschool that they don't expect you to stay forever. Anyway, for whatever its worth.

 

[amfteamster]

Re: Opinion

it's a professional airline style organization...

And the hits just keep on comming!!!

 

[Freight Dog]

Hey amfteamster, I think it's time for you to punch out of AMF, buddy. You've been there too long...

I was at AMF for 9 months and I gotta say that I enjoyed it. No, it wasn't all peachy. Like amfteamster said.. you gotta have some backbone or they'll walk all over you. Bear in mind, that's at some bases, not all. When I was outbased to MYF, I couldn't be happier. I was home every day, 4 nights a week schedule, good flying... if I were an old geezer, it'd be easy to settle down doing that. I really truly enjoyed that kind of flying.

I worked at 3 Part 135 operators prior to coming to AMF and they either downsized or went out of business, so I can definitely relate. AMF is a relatively stable company as far as Part 135 world goes.

Maintenance.... I didn't have a problem with it, but I wasn't at DFW. Even when I was there, I heard maintenance truly sucks at DFW. OAK, PHX and BUR... if you had a squawk, it'd be fixed the next day. The planes were old... Hell, one of their Lances is the 2nd oldest Lance ever made... serial number 2. Serial number 1 was crashed by Piper during flight tests. So expect old equipment.

Yes, people have jumped ship and went to work for SWA, some to AWA, some to Alaska. A lot of us went to regionals from there.

All in all, excellent experience, good training program, and great flying. If you're taking the Part 135 route, I'd go with AMF.

 

[AZaviator]

Hey amfteamster, I think it's time for you to punch out of AMF, buddy. You've been there too long...

Yea, just answer that question, with out any Amflight bashing or any other of your usual negative comments.

If you are THAT unhappy with Ameriflight, then why don't you go somewhere else?

 

[SDCFI]

If you are THAT unhappy with Ameriflight, then why don't you go somewhere else?

Probably because he has incidents/accidents/violations on his record that prevent him from getting hired elseware. I know the low pay, 20-30 year old equip, and brutal schedules are pretty enticing, but if you're really that unhappy get the f@ck out and quit whining.

 

[amfteamster]

...getting hired elseware.

Its elsewhere, learn english b1tch.

 

[belchfire]

My goodness...

tathepilot...all of what has been said about
watching your own back, maintenance, and
so on can, does and will apply at some point
at any carrier. Some are just far worse than
others. It is about the bottom line.

I have heard good things about amf from a
coworker, but he left there to come to the
airline I'm at (the smallest 121 carrier I am
aware of), to get some 121 experience...
now he is stuck and would be making hella
more money if he had stayed.

I have worked 135 freight (about 1500 hrs
worth) and for the most part loved it. Really
hard work, low pay, crappy skeds, etc.
The flip side is that it is just you and the
airplane, no stupid pax, few wx delays, and
alot of fun.

If you are about to meet 135 mins, why don't
you send your stuff to some of the regionals?

just a thought

 

[tathepilot]

If you are about to meet 135 mins, why don't
you send your stuff to some of the regionals?

just a thought

In all honesty, I never wanted to go to the airlines. I started flying at 16 because of my love for the sky. When I got my license I always said that I'd be happy flying anything that is able to take to the sky. (Except helo's)
I've been thinking much about cagro lately because I won't have to deal with all the other things that come with working for a regional.
I think about bush flying or maybe joining a missionary to help people out.

And by the way 'starchkr' retart sounds much better

 

[Captain Morgan]

Tathepilot:

I hear what you're saying. When I was 3 or 4 I took my first trip to the airport. My eyes fell on an Eastern DC-9 (I think it was a dash 30, not sure though) and I was hooked. The sound the smell, everything. Automatically, I grew up thinking that the airlines were the only aspect of aviation to go into. As i progressed on with my career I saw there's a lot of really cool jobs. In the end, what really matters? To fly, that's it. So I think you're on the right track. Good luck to you!

 

[belchfire]

Okay, I read you! Mountain Air in the
Southeast, Empire Air in the NW, USA
Jet in YIP...there is someone using
the Shorts for Airborne in the Midwest
don't know the names of the Caravan
operators for UPS, but many of these
are good operations with civilized
pay scales...Also, Airnet can be a good
deal for some. I am trying to find out
some info on Murray Aviation out of
YIP...lots of them out there.

Piston operators I know of are Package
Express and Ram Air in the carolinas...
I used to work for Package Express's
prequil, CAF. Flight Express in the lower
midwest.

Good Luck!

 

[starchkr]

Nice Capt' Morgan....

Is that the new multi role civilian Piper i have been reading about. A carryover from the military...ya know part plane, part sub, part boat... Lets not forget, now the MX costs have tripled...to do an annual you must go to an A&P, a shipyard, and an undersea testing ground. Whew...that $4000 just turned into $40,000.