Career advice

[Dorsal Fin]

So here is the situation. 5 years ago i screwed up, had a runin with the law and recieved a class a misdemeanor. This was my first and only run in with the law, and i definatley learned my lesson.

I have interviewed with a couple of regional airlines, trying to get out of the cargo operation that i am in now. The misdemeanor did not come up in the first interviews and i was not offered the job. I recently attended an openhouse for a regional airline, my qualifications seemed like they were in line with what they were looking for (so they said), but when they asked if i had any criminal background we discussed it and they imediatley dissmissed me. I recently had a phone interview, and it seemed like I had the same experience.

Here is my question. Am i screwed, (should i be looking for that trucking schools phone number).

or should i just wait for a 2 more years till the record is expunged.

after the record is expunged, should i admit to the misdemeanor.

Any advice from people that have experience with this would be helpfull, and please no flames as i have already been torched.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

All companies are going to ask that question. Since it is a Class A, I would imagine it was a serious offense. A Felony is only one step away. On a lighter note, apply with ASA, they have a repeat offender running pilot recruiting. After all, ASA is the "world's best".

 

[vclean]

What did the offense involve? Was it originally a felony charge plea-bargained down to a Class A?

 

[Dorsal Fin]

it was orig. a felony, but plead down, if that matters.

 

[Dorsal Fin]

All companies are going to ask that question. Since it is a Class A, I would imagine it was a serious offense. A Felony is only one step away. On a lighter note, apply with ASA, they have a repeat offender running pilot recruiting. After all, ASA is the "world's best".

I did apply with ASA. They are the ones that i had the phone interview with. I got the feeling that they weren't going to look at me seriously.

 

[shamrock]

On a lighter note, apply with ASA, they have a repeat offender running pilot recruiting. After all, ASA is the "world's best".

I have a friend who was hired at ASA that had a DUI/DWI at 18 or 19, a good 8-10 years before getting hired and probably 5 years before she even began to fly. This recruiter gave her a TON of cr*p about it, after she was hired.

"Hello Ms. Kettle, I'm Mrs. Pot and I'll be deciding whether you are worthy of employment with our airline."

 

[vclean]

it was orig. a felony, but plead down, if that matters.

What was the original felony charge and what did you plea to? Certain crimes forbid you from employment in the 121 (possibly 135) world for at least 10 years.

Certain crimes specifically disqualify you from employment with any airline. What you did may have to time out (10 years), before applying to a carrier.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I have a friend who was hired at ASA that had a DUI/DWI at 18 or 19, a good 8-10 years before getting hired and probably 5 years before she even began to fly. This recruiter gave her a TON of cr*p about it, after she was hired.

"Hello Ms. Kettle, I'm Mrs. Pot and I'll be deciding whether you are worthy of employment with our airline."

That's about what I expected. At ASA, the bigger a screw up you are, the higher you are promoted. Then, after you've reached a position of enough power, you can bust as many people you'd like who've made less serious mistakes. Or, you can write aritcles in the pilot-bashing newsletters, and proceed to inform all the less experienced line peasants how to do the most basic tasks. Like a preschooler. "ASA, the world's best regional airline." Yeah, whatever...

 

[SAEflyr]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a class A put you into the gray area with the FAA as far as the "good moral character" clause is concerned? Seems like an airline wouldn't want to hire someone that is possibly ineligible for an ATP.

 

[acaTerry]

That's about what I expected. At ASA, the bigger a screw up you are, the higher you are promoted.

So I can go be a street CA at ASA?!!

 

[upndsky]

If you want an honest opinion, you've got to tell us what you did. If it was drug-related, for example, I would say you can kiss the career bye-bye.

 

[embraerjetpilot]

Career advice...find another profession..

Four more years of Nazi control.. brings no new airline jobs.

 

[Clyde]

Career advice...find another profession..

Four more years of Nazi control.. brings no new airline jobs.

So far Bush is leading in the polls, so no Nazi control. If Kerry wins, you will have Nazi control, along with every other country that Kerry would think we need permission from to make decisions here.

 

[English]

My advice - is worthless, just like everyone else's here, because we have never been in your situation.

If you really want help, I'd recommend talking to someone like Lori Clark, who used to be a recruiter for a regional airline and now does interview preps, background checks and the like. She will definitely know if and how to get you back in the good stack.

If you really want to move on, you'll need professional help.

Her website www.flytheline.com

 

[WhiteCloud]

If you want an honest opinion, you've got to tell us what you did. If it was drug-related, for example, I would say you can kiss the career bye-bye.

Absolutely. Just based on the evasiveness displayed on this anonymous thread I'd say getting hired on at an airline would be next to impossible. The evasiveness about the type of crime is problem #1. Being more forthcoming to an interviewer (or us since you asked us about it) would at least get you considered.